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Intrinsic said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

They are bored and they want something to do so they do it

But, what it seems to me is that, if we presume that Lizard Squad are idiots and they are taking credit for what another hacker called FamedGod has been doing and if what he is saying is true, then the point he is trying to make is that the Security Measures that Sony took after the hack of 2011 was minimal and he hacked PSN to prove his point. It still sucks but I can kinda understand where he is coming from if this is an issue

https://twitter.com/FamedGod

Thats all well and good, but a simple mail to sony saying "hey, I can hack into your PSN cause the security measures you took wasn't good enough" and he shows them how, would just as easily prove the point without being such a nuisance to millions of people.

This hacker mentality is by far some of the most selfish self serving acts of wasted brilliance we have in the modern world. Or the fools talking about bring *insert major corporation name here* down, such hypocritical bullshit, just watch their tone change the second they are offered a job.

The biggest fools to me and the idiots that actually support the nonsense these hackers do. Don't even have words for them.

Well to be fair, when most hackers do that, they either get ignored or arrested (Like how At&T did) so I can kinda understand where they are coming from but with that being said, hacking a company and affecting millions of people is also not alright so they do deserve whatever punishment they get, thats for sure



                  

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Zackasaurus-rex said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

They are bored and they want something to do so they do it

But, what it seems to me is that, if we presume that Lizard Squad are idiots and they are taking credit for what another hacker called FamedGod has been doing and if what he is saying is true, then the point he is trying to make is that the Security Measures that Sony took after the hack of 2011 was minimal and he hacked PSN to prove his point. It still sucks but I can kinda understand where he is coming from if this is an issue (if its true that is)

https://twitter.com/FamedGod


That guy is a notorious fake. :P

Furthermore, the security measures Sony put in place after 2011 are absolutely cutting edge.

What is happening today is not a hack at all, and calling these kids "hackers" is really an abuse of the term. It's just a DDOS attack, which is something an organised group can do to simulate incredible traffic in order to take down any service. The same people took down Blizzard and a bunch of Twitch streamers yesterday.

And they made a bomb threat to the SOE president's plane.

Yea that bomb thing specially was just retarded, like, thats going way tooo far



                  

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Zackasaurus-rex said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

They are bored and they want something to do so they do it

But, what it seems to me is that, if we presume that Lizard Squad are idiots and they are taking credit for what another hacker called FamedGod has been doing and if what he is saying is true, then the point he is trying to make is that the Security Measures that Sony took after the hack of 2011 was minimal and he hacked PSN to prove his point. It still sucks but I can kinda understand where he is coming from if this is an issue (if its true that is)

https://twitter.com/FamedGod


That guy is a notorious fake. :P

Furthermore, the security measures Sony put in place after 2011 are absolutely cutting edge.

What is happening today is not a hack at all, and calling these kids "hackers" is really an abuse of the term. It's just a DDOS attack, which is something an organised group can do to simulate incredible traffic in order to take down any service. The same people took down Blizzard and a bunch of Twitch streamers yesterday.

And they made a bomb threat to the SOE president's plane.


you clearly chose the right day to make that statement...



Well when Sony got hacked back in 2011, the hackers were actually fighting for the gamers. Unfortunately for the gamers, the only way they could do that was to take down PSN.



Come on, you can't even call DDoS'ers hackers. You'd insult real hackers. DDoS'ing isn't even hacking, it's just straining the server enough that it becomes unusable. And I'm not entirely sure, but I think last time I read about the matter, it was even possible to rent the machines you use for DDoS'ing, so there isn't necessarily any hacking related even to that part.



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Jimbo1337 said:
Well when Sony got hacked back in 2011, the hackers were actually fighting for the gamers. Unfortunately for the gamers, the only way they could do that was to take down PSN.

No..No..No, fighting for the Gamer's is going to court and fighting for regulation on security measures all companies must follow, if hackers show they can go past your security its one thing but to do so where it can cause undo harm not only to the corp. but also the people you 
"claim" you are fighting for is another thing.

Its pure Hubris, Arrogance to say hey this or that company are not protecting your data very well, but break into the data center because you can, if you are really trying to really help the Consumer you go to regulation Body Taking the law into your own hands is not only wrong, but breking in to something that does not belong to you than making off with the statement i was "doing it for the consumer" shows that they have a disreguard for property, imagine no computer's, no freaking cellphones or tv's or any d@mn electronics to Hack, where would the skill set put them?

if your going to help there is more prudent way's in doing so, but than Sony would not learn the lesson right?

No freaking digital security is never going to be enough! no ammount of money or manpower is going to stop tallented people that are trying to direct hack you to stop them if they can get past a security measure, but here is the thing if they can get past it, was it ever going to be good enough anyway?

or would that be Hubris to claim since i was the first to do it, i was only going to be the only one to figure it out.

it's one thing if you want to help its another to say you want to help but really Hinder claiming i did it to make a point. its sorta like you have the right to be an @ss hole, but do you have the be the entire @ss while you are at it?



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Well, I think it is a group of people who has legitimate intentions, but doesn't realize the methods they are using are not at all appropriate (similar to violent protesters). Through these methods, while the end result might actually fix a supposed problem, the users who were supposedly affected by the problem were actually more affected by the hacking group attempting to fix the problem than anything.

It really is nothing more than a different mindset. Many of us think it is dumb, but to them, they are doing good.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
DD_Bwest said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
They are bored and they want something to do so they do it

But, what it seems to me is that, if we presume that Lizard Squad is actually fake and they are taking credit for what another hacker called FamedGod has been doing and if what he is saying is true, the point he is trying to make is that the Security Measures that Sony took after the hack of 2011 was minimal and he hacked PSN to prove his point.

https://twitter.com/FamedGod


no famed god is a fake trying to take credit for it,   according to gaf atleast.   some of his ip's that he listed turned out to be businesses, and there are videos about him from before all this, about him being a COD kid who pretends to hack people and uses simple internet services that you pay for, to track down people.

 

but then again who knows..  either way the FBI is involved now

Mhmm, well, then at the end of the day, they will all get arrested so alls is well

if they are any good at hacking they wont get caught,



old skool

Jimbo1337 said:
Well when Sony got hacked back in 2011, the hackers were actually fighting for the gamers. Unfortunately for the gamers, the only way they could do that was to take down PSN.

I doubt they were fighting for gamers, I don't remember asking anyone to fight for me, albeit caused was a few weeks of annoyance for 99% of gamers, they were doing it for themselves