PSN isn't down though...

what i asked is directly related to your comment about their activities if i am offtopic so are you lol

One single person, or a tiny group of people don't get to choose which laws are right or wrong (unless you're an elected official, of course).  Most people, who aren't entitled, instant gratification babies actually put the work in to raise awareness among the consumer, devise new legislation or amendments to existing legislation etc..  Additionally, Sony is located in Japan, so unless you're actually from Japan, your opinion means fuck all.  It's their company.  If you don't like it, buy something else, or maybe come up with your own ideas and show Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo etc... how to properly do it.  This isn't fixing anything, all it does is make users angry at these idiots, Sony makes a welcome back plan, which increases PSN accounts even more (it's what happened with the original PSN hack...didn't 'cripple' Sony, it actually brought them more customers...Bravo Anonymous, Bravo).

Nor does it actually 'hurt' the people at Sony they're allegedly upset with.  What, you think their "hack" effects contracted salaries?  Bonuses?  lol.  No.  The only people this hurts is the consumer.

Changing the world one poster at a time on VGC forums. Keep up the good work.

Nobody has ever done that. Ever. All anyone can do is make the response time to the attacks faster. You can't make them "not possible anymore". XBL was already ddos'ed earlier this year, so was Steam, and recently some PC game services too.

I have to disagree. Let's entertain the thought that some people deserve it. Do I deserve it? I never called them idiots and simply expressed my dissatisfaction with the situation. Whether they have a point or not is irrelevant. They are affecting me without me ever having done anything to them. We can all provide an explanation to our actions. But does that make it ok? What if I disagree with their actions and want to send a message? Would it be ok for me to mess with them? I don't think it would. And yes, not being able to play online for a few hours is not that big of a deal. But what gives them the right to affect my life?

There is a reason there are laws for these things. If people keep attacking others because they have their reasons, where does it stop? How would they feel if I could track them down and mess with their internet or something (I'm talking about something trivial)? How do you think they would react? Would they say "hm, it seems to me that you have a good reason to do this to me. Let's discuss why you did this and find a solution". I don't think they would.

But again, the damage lasts as long as the attacks can be maintained, and the longer they are maintained, the easier and more quickly one is able to track you down and find where you are. Once you take your finger off the trigger, it's pretty easy to bounce back and get the servers back to normal, because, essentially, the traffic lanes are no longer clogged. Which brings us to the problem. There's a difference between inflicting damage during the immediate span of time- requiring your constant effort- and inflicting damage that will last. If the group in question had any aspirations of 'destroying' or even seriously hurting Sony, they needed to inflict damage that wouldn't simply go away after they stopped firing.

Which means either they HAD no intentions of seriously hurting Sony, and were simply showboating to draw a crowd, or they DID have intentions of hurting Sony, but were really short-sighted and didn't realize how inadequate their efforts would be.

(The third option is there's some super secret, diabolical master plan we don't know about, but we have to go off the information we have, not start spinning 'what-ifs')

Sony loses... less than a day of service? A bit of bad PR- which it's going to be more than capable of pushing onto the hacking group responsible- and in the end, a bit of a headache. The hackers in question, at best, get away with their freedoms intact, and at worst get blacklisted as hackers, imprisoned, restricted from computer access, etc.

Thanks for clarifying.

we should all be trying to change the world because maybe then atrocities would happen a lot less but the first step is that we become more educated about what we are talking about wouldn't you agree?

Sony has scheduled maintenance until Tuesday which was announced a week or so ago. These fools are just trying to take credit for something they had no part in.

Anybody that logged in last 10 days can continue to do most things. I think the PSN Store is the only thing down for everyone until maintenance is completed.