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The end of gaming... Sadly, I wish Sega would slap the hell out of these companies after all the innovations.. Instead everyone is at the mercy of the future.. Who knows, maybe we'll enjoy classics more than ever..



 

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SvennoJ said:
JOKA_ said:


I don't understand this....at all.  Its not inherently more fun to play a game from a disc than from a hard-disc drive.  This doesn't change the game, just how it gets to you.  In the 80/90/00's data on a cartridge or disc was the easiest way to get you a game, so thats how it was sold.  10 or 20 years from now, the easiest way to get you a game is going to be over a highspeed internet connection.

It is for me. I love browsing through my collection, discover dvds I forgot I had. Or look through the old PC boxes stored away somewhere, trying to find something I vaguely remember.
I love going to the store on the way home and bring back a new game, instead of looking at a download progress bar. I resell games I don't think I'll play again to get half price of the next purchase. With digital games, they sit there and mock me in my purchase list / library / take up hdd space.
Taking out the old gamecube and playing Ikaruga with the original controllers just feels better than emulation and upscaling. (Not that I mind remasters, windwaker HD is awesome)

As for HDDs, through my years 50% of my HDDs have failed after 5 years. None of my CDs/DVDs/Blu-rays have failed. I'm paranoid now, I have my important data (mainly photos and videos) on my pc, laptop, external HDD and SDHC cards. Consequently I don't have a lot of room for games, nor the bandwidth to (re)download them. When my PS3 failed, it took months to redownload just my indie games. Plus I couldn't get everything back. Some things were simply not available anymore or had disappeared from my purchase history.

For movies, I also don't trust the myriad of different services I'll end up with to get the digital versions of movies. And exactly why do those digital copies have an expiry date... When I walk in to my theater room and see my collection grow over time, yes that is more fun then seeing the amount of HDD space left decrease. Re-organize it now and then, put my favourites in a prominent spot. It's more than a bunch of data on shelves, it's a memory wall.

I get where you are coming from, I remember my mom driving me home from GameStop while I opened up a brand new game and flipped through a nice color manual.  That seems supurfluous to actually playing and enjoying the gameplay of the game though, which is what I was getting at.

Also, I don't know how long it takes (years according to wikipedia), but there is apparently data rot to keep in mind.  Those cartidges/discs may stop working some day no matter how well you take care of them.  

I like the idea of having an account with all my games associated with it.  It can't be stolen, it can't be damaged by water, it can't fall and crack, it can't get misplaced (Ive had these things happen).  If my computer HDD dies?  Boom replace it and all of my games are back.  My whole computer dies?  Boom buy a new one and all of my games are back.  I buy a traveling laptop to go with my desktop?  Boom all of my games are on my desktop at home and my laptop on the go.

The positives totally outweigh the negatives in my book, and this is the inevitable future.

To each their own I guess.



Platinums: Red Dead Redemption, Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Terminator Salvation, Uncharted 1, inFamous Second Son, Rocket League

If Sony goes digital, I do not care at all. I am not interested in them at all.
Maybe PS4 is last console from Sony? Possible!



JOKA_ said:

I get where you are coming from, I remember my mom driving me home from GameStop while I opened up a brand new game and flipped through a nice color manual.  That seems supurfluous to actually playing and enjoying the gameplay of the game though, which is what I was getting at.

Also, I don't know how long it takes (years according to wikipedia), but there is apparently data rot to keep in mind.  Those cartidges/discs may stop working some day no matter how well you take care of them.  

I like the idea of having an account with all my games associated with it.  It can't be stolen, it can't be damaged by water, it can't fall and crack, it can't get misplaced (Ive had these things happen).  If my computer HDD dies?  Boom replace it and all of my games are back.  My whole computer dies?  Boom buy a new one and all of my games are back.  I buy a traveling laptop to go with my desktop?  Boom all of my games are on my desktop at home and my laptop on the go.

The positives totally outweigh the negatives in my book, and this is the inevitable future.

To each their own I guess.

Data rot can happen. My Laserdisc collection well outlasted my 2 players though, they still look fine. I have replaced my favourites with blu-ray versions anyway. I haven't had a problem yet with even my oldest CDs.

You put a lot of faith in your account(s). Companies you have you account(s) with can go bankrupt or get taken over with no guarantees for your purchase history. I've already lost digital purchases from psn after my ps3 died. For example the stardust HD dlc was not available anymore in my purchase history as a few other things. Licenses can also end or change and the games won't be available for download anymore. It has already happened. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-26-the-case-of-the-disappearing-video-games For example Outrun Online arcade, gone.

In the end I prefer something tangeable.



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JOKA_ said:
SvennoJ said:
JOKA_ said:


I don't understand this....at all.  Its not inherently more fun to play a game from a disc than from a hard-disc drive.  This doesn't change the game, just how it gets to you.  In the 80/90/00's data on a cartridge or disc was the easiest way to get you a game, so thats how it was sold.  10 or 20 years from now, the easiest way to get you a game is going to be over a highspeed internet connection.

It is for me. I love browsing through my collection, discover dvds I forgot I had. Or look through the old PC boxes stored away somewhere, trying to find something I vaguely remember.
I love going to the store on the way home and bring back a new game, instead of looking at a download progress bar. I resell games I don't think I'll play again to get half price of the next purchase. With digital games, they sit there and mock me in my purchase list / library / take up hdd space.
Taking out the old gamecube and playing Ikaruga with the original controllers just feels better than emulation and upscaling. (Not that I mind remasters, windwaker HD is awesome)

As for HDDs, through my years 50% of my HDDs have failed after 5 years. None of my CDs/DVDs/Blu-rays have failed. I'm paranoid now, I have my important data (mainly photos and videos) on my pc, laptop, external HDD and SDHC cards. Consequently I don't have a lot of room for games, nor the bandwidth to (re)download them. When my PS3 failed, it took months to redownload just my indie games. Plus I couldn't get everything back. Some things were simply not available anymore or had disappeared from my purchase history.

For movies, I also don't trust the myriad of different services I'll end up with to get the digital versions of movies. And exactly why do those digital copies have an expiry date... When I walk in to my theater room and see my collection grow over time, yes that is more fun then seeing the amount of HDD space left decrease. Re-organize it now and then, put my favourites in a prominent spot. It's more than a bunch of data on shelves, it's a memory wall.

I get where you are coming from, I remember my mom driving me home from GameStop while I opened up a brand new game and flipped through a nice color manual.  That seems supurfluous to actually playing and enjoying the gameplay of the game though, which is what I was getting at.

Also, I don't know how long it takes (years according to wikipedia), but there is apparently data rot to keep in mind. Those cartidges/discs may stop working some day no matter how well you take care of them.  

Not if you store the cartridges & discs in a dark, cool location with low humidity.

And I'm definitely saving some of Shadow1980's posts the next time someone brings up, "you don't own anything."