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Forums - Sales Discussion - November Update!!!! Under 3m - Predict: Xbox One will sell more in the US than WiiU will Worldwide

tak13 on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
PigPen said:
Seece said:
PigPen said:
We'll have this conversation when Xbox One actually start selling more consoles worldwide.


Who says it isn't? WiiU is overtracked (and isn't doing that well vs XB1 in Europe).

Anyhow, VGC will start showing that Madden week onwards (which luckily is next tuesday!)


Proof the Wii U is overtracked?  As far as I know the Xbox One is overtracked.  Wii U is selling more consoles everywhere except the US.  I respect your opinion, and I'm giving you mines.  To be blunt and honest, I'm thinking the Wii U is undertracked.  The 3DS and Wii U sales seems to be moving at a slower rate then the Vita and Xbox One.

I already did in the OP. We have 6.6m~ sold to consumers end of June and Nintendo have 6.68m shipped. There is not 80k on shelves whislt they're selling on average (so VGC claims, 50k a week).

What evidence do you have Xbox One is overtracked?

΄..........ah seece...wii u has already been adjusted just ask dernebel,xbone is overtracked by 100000+ drake tolu knows about that



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tak13 on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
PigPen said:
Seece said:
PigPen said:
We'll have this conversation when Xbox One actually start selling more consoles worldwide.


Who says it isn't? WiiU is overtracked (and isn't doing that well vs XB1 in Europe).

Anyhow, VGC will start showing that Madden week onwards (which luckily is next tuesday!)


Proof the Wii U is overtracked?  As far as I know the Xbox One is overtracked.  Wii U is selling more consoles everywhere except the US.  I respect your opinion, and I'm giving you mines.  To be blunt and honest, I'm thinking the Wii U is undertracked.  The 3DS and Wii U sales seems to be moving at a slower rate then the Vita and Xbox One.

I already did in the OP. We have 6.6m~ sold to consumers end of June and Nintendo have 6.68m shipped. There is not 80k on shelves whislt they're selling on average (so VGC claims, 50k a week).

What evidence do you have Xbox One is overtracked?

΄..........ah seece...wii u has already been adjusted just ask dernebel,xbone is overtracked by 100000+



Fusioncode on 21 August 2014
BeElite said:
Fusioncode said:

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 


Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 

Halo and Gears will be bigger system sellers than Smash Bros and Zelda. Look at how many units Mario Kart moved, (a series much bigger than Smash and Zelda) it wasn't much. It did next to nothing in Japan, and only raised US numbers from 48k to 85k in launch month. 



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BeElite on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
BeElite said:
Seece said:

Conclusion

WiiU's lack of third party support, casual interest, low lifespan and history so far suggests to me it won't sell above 20m, and if it does not by much. Despite MK's release it still trails the Gamecube (21m~). XB1's ability to compete in the US (thus far) suggests nothing less than 20m there when all is said and done. Come the end of this year it'll be approaching 6m~ lifetime there, or more.

If XB1 manages to stay very competitve with PS4 in the states and even manage to overtake/become #1 this will happen sooner rather than later. But if PS4 continues to see the sales vs XB1 that it's getting, this will be a long drawn out prediction that won't be fullfilled for many years, when WiiU starts to slug and XB1 continues on in the US.

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  

Except that's wrong. Titanfall moved XB1 up to 330k for the month of March in the US, something WiiU barely managed worldwide with Mario Kart (a much bigger game, or at least should have been.)

Also, if you read the OP, XB1 doesn't even need to do better than PS4 to do this.

And then dropped like a rock to nearly 1/3d those sale the following month.

It wont do anywhere near ok enough to do what your predicting, it sold what 1.1m in US in 8 months ? its got a hell of a long way to go.



PigPen on 21 August 2014

Xbox One is in last place. Ask any console owner beside the Nintendo champs (die hard), and they will tell you (for the most part) the Wii U is the ideal secondary console to have. I'm not going to get into which console is over and undertracked. The Wii U is in second as of now, and until the Xbox One start to sell more consoles I'll entertain this conversation.



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Seece on 21 August 2014
BeElite said:
Seece said:

Except that's wrong. Titanfall moved XB1 up to 330k for the month of March in the US, something WiiU barely managed worldwide with Mario Kart (a much bigger game, or at least should have been.)

Also, if you read the OP, XB1 doesn't even need to do better than PS4 to do this.

And then dropped like a rock to nearly 1/3d those sale the following month.

It wont do anywhere near ok enough to do what your predicting, it sold what 1.1m in US in 8 months ? its got a hell of a long way to go.

1.2 in 7, regardless it's the summer. The next 5 months are packed with games and bundles. And we have actually seen first hand that Xbox One can sell there, both during launch and Titanfall.



 

BeElite on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:
Fusioncode said:

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 


Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 

Halo and Gears will be bigger system sellers than Smash Bros and Zelda. Look at how many units Mario Kart moved, (a series much bigger than Smash and Zelda) it wasn't much. It did next to nothing in Japan, and only raised US numbers from 48k to 85k in launch month. 

Im sure they give bigger bumps, just wont matter enough over all. 

 Alaso you hope they are but its far from a sure thing, The fps market is not exactly lacking competition Halo is not what it was and Gears god only knows given its creaters sold it of and now an unproven dev is making the next one.  Only thing sure is MS will whore then out to epic skaces.  But quality wise id actually have to go with SmashZelda.



PigPen on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:
Fusioncode said:

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 


Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 

Halo and Gears will be bigger system sellers than Smash Bros and Zelda. Look at how many units Mario Kart moved, (a series much bigger than Smash and Zelda) it wasn't much. It did next to nothing in Japan, and only raised US numbers from 48k to 85k in launch month. 

Halo & Gears > Smash & Zelda

Seriously, I doubt it.



Fusioncode on 21 August 2014
PigPen said:
Fusioncode said:
BeElite said:

Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 

Halo and Gears will be bigger system sellers than Smash Bros and Zelda. Look at how many units Mario Kart moved, (a series much bigger than Smash and Zelda) it wasn't much. It did next to nothing in Japan, and only raised US numbers from 48k to 85k in launch month. 

Halo & Gears > Smash & Zelda

Seriously, I doubt it.

Why? Will you stop making these hit and run posts and actually form an argument for once? I may not agree with BeElite but at least he made an argument for his case. 



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BeElite on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
BeElite said:
Seece said:

Except that's wrong. Titanfall moved XB1 up to 330k for the month of March in the US, something WiiU barely managed worldwide with Mario Kart (a much bigger game, or at least should have been.)

Also, if you read the OP, XB1 doesn't even need to do better than PS4 to do this.

And then dropped like a rock to nearly 1/3d those sale the following month.

It wont do anywhere near ok enough to do what your predicting, it sold what 1.1m in US in 8 months ? its got a hell of a long way to go.

1.2 in 7, regardless it's the summer. The next 5 months are packed with games and bundles. And we have actually seen first hand that Xbox One can sell there, both during launch and Titanfall.


Yahh and all thsoe games will be on PS4, likely running better or at high rez.  

TF with the 450 unofficial bundles ? you think major retailer will be ridding of stock like they did then every game.