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Forums - Sales Discussion - November Update!!!! Under 3m - Predict: Xbox One will sell more in the US than WiiU will Worldwide

PigPen on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
PigPen said:
We'll have this conversation when Xbox One actually start selling more consoles worldwide.


Who says it isn't? WiiU is overtracked (and isn't doing that well vs XB1 in Europe).

Anyhow, VGC will start showing that Madden week onwards (which luckily is next tuesday!)


Proof the Wii U is overtracked?  As far as I know the Xbox One is overtracked.  Wii U is selling more consoles everywhere except the US.  I respect your opinion, and I'm giving you mines.  To be blunt and honest, I'm thinking the Wii U is undertracked.  The 3DS and Wii U sales seems to be moving at a slower rate then the Vita and Xbox One.



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Seece on 21 August 2014
PigPen said:
Seece said:
PigPen said:
We'll have this conversation when Xbox One actually start selling more consoles worldwide.


Who says it isn't? WiiU is overtracked (and isn't doing that well vs XB1 in Europe).

Anyhow, VGC will start showing that Madden week onwards (which luckily is next tuesday!)


Proof the Wii U is overtracked?  As far as I know the Xbox One is overtracked.  Wii U is selling more consoles everywhere except the US.  I respect your opinion, and I'm giving you mines.  To be blunt and honest, I'm thinking the Wii U is undertracked.  The 3DS and Wii U sales seems to be moving at a slower rate then the Vita and Xbox One.

I already did in the OP. We have 6.6m~ sold to consumers end of June and Nintendo have 6.68m shipped. There is not 80k on shelves whislt they're selling on average (so VGC claims, 50k a week).

What evidence do you have Xbox One is overtracked?




 

vivster on 21 August 2014

If Wii U manages to release any games in 2016 it might get above 20m.



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PigPen on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
PigPen said:
Seece said:
PigPen said:
We'll have this conversation when Xbox One actually start selling more consoles worldwide.


Who says it isn't? WiiU is overtracked (and isn't doing that well vs XB1 in Europe).

Anyhow, VGC will start showing that Madden week onwards (which luckily is next tuesday!)


Proof the Wii U is overtracked?  As far as I know the Xbox One is overtracked.  Wii U is selling more consoles everywhere except the US.  I respect your opinion, and I'm giving you mines.  To be blunt and honest, I'm thinking the Wii U is undertracked.  The 3DS and Wii U sales seems to be moving at a slower rate then the Vita and Xbox One.

I already did in the OP. We have 6.6m~ sold to consumers end of June and Nintendo have 6.68m shipped. There is not 80k on shelves whislt they're selling on average (so VGC claims, 50k a week).

What evidence do you have Xbox One is overtracked?

 We are now in August.  You're talking two months ago. lol



Seece on 21 August 2014
PigPen said:
Seece said:

I already did in the OP. We have 6.6m~ sold to consumers end of June and Nintendo have 6.68m shipped. There is not 80k on shelves whislt they're selling on average (so VGC claims, 50k a week).

What evidence do you have Xbox One is overtracked?

 We are now in August.  You're talking two months ago. lol

What's that got to do with anything? As of June 30th it's overtracked, and likely still is now. (why would sales increase July onwards a month after MK launched .. NPD certainly shows the opposite. I see you have no argument for XB1 being overtracked?



 

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wary-wallaroo on 21 August 2014

Sure, the X1 will end up in second, not that that's much of an accomplishment. I agree with your prediction



BeElite on 21 August 2014
Seece said:

Conclusion

WiiU's lack of third party support, casual interest, low lifespan and history so far suggests to me it won't sell above 20m, and if it does not by much. Despite MK's release it still trails the Gamecube (21m~). XB1's ability to compete in the US (thus far) suggests nothing less than 20m there when all is said and done. Come the end of this year it'll be approaching 6m~ lifetime there, or more.

If XB1 manages to stay very competitve with PS4 in the states and even manage to overtake/become #1 this will happen sooner rather than later. But if PS4 continues to see the sales vs XB1 that it's getting, this will be a long drawn out prediction that won't be fullfilled for many years, when WiiU starts to slug and XB1 continues on in the US.

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  



Fusioncode on 21 August 2014
BeElite said:
Seece said:

Conclusion

WiiU's lack of third party support, casual interest, low lifespan and history so far suggests to me it won't sell above 20m, and if it does not by much. Despite MK's release it still trails the Gamecube (21m~). XB1's ability to compete in the US (thus far) suggests nothing less than 20m there when all is said and done. Come the end of this year it'll be approaching 6m~ lifetime there, or more.

If XB1 manages to stay very competitve with PS4 in the states and even manage to overtake/become #1 this will happen sooner rather than later. But if PS4 continues to see the sales vs XB1 that it's getting, this will be a long drawn out prediction that won't be fullfilled for many years, when WiiU starts to slug and XB1 continues on in the US.

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 



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BeElite on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:

XBO has bigger exclusives coming than WiiU. All Nintendo has left is Smash Bros and Zelda, and Smash Bros is on 3DS anyways. 


Halo gears vs Smash Zelda.

I dont see any major MS advantage. 



Seece on 21 August 2014
BeElite said:
Seece said:

Conclusion

WiiU's lack of third party support, casual interest, low lifespan and history so far suggests to me it won't sell above 20m, and if it does not by much. Despite MK's release it still trails the Gamecube (21m~). XB1's ability to compete in the US (thus far) suggests nothing less than 20m there when all is said and done. Come the end of this year it'll be approaching 6m~ lifetime there, or more.

If XB1 manages to stay very competitve with PS4 in the states and even manage to overtake/become #1 this will happen sooner rather than later. But if PS4 continues to see the sales vs XB1 that it's getting, this will be a long drawn out prediction that won't be fullfilled for many years, when WiiU starts to slug and XB1 continues on in the US.

Nope, for one id hardly call X1 competitive in US given all MS has done to spur sales while sonys been costing all this time.  X1 is not coming back wining back share or even ever making it a fight, other then the big launch its been rather a fail in its battle vs PS4.  That's never changing.  Wiiu for all its failures and weaknesses, has one thing X1 lacks.  Exclusives, thats one major front x1 cant match it nor will it.  X1 is no where strong enough to out sale wiius ww lt in US.

To much rides on the no chance in hell possability that x1 some how manages to do better vs PS4 in the future.  

Except that's wrong. Titanfall moved XB1 up to 330k for the month of March in the US, something WiiU barely managed worldwide with Mario Kart (a much bigger game, or at least should have been.)

Also, if you read the OP, XB1 doesn't even need to do better than PS4 to do this.