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It will not only NOT dominate but it will also sell less, DEFINITELY.

One thing people do not realize and wrongly assess is the brand power of xbox. It just is overblown in people's minds. Last generation x360 sold as much as it did because of

- price point (it was $299 for the entry model)

- PS3's late arrival

- spiraling network effects (people bought x360 because their friends bought x360)

 

...and NONE of these advantages exist today. Although there is some good inheritance from the 360 era, the bulk of the x360 users are ready to jump off ship as long as the other system has the games they are looking for and their friends have the same system.

The network effect is already in action. There is no such thing as ps4 hype, which is a very short sighted statement. If you go thru my estimate history, you'll see ps4 is doing exactly as expected. It is just most of the platform neutral people (probably over 60% of the console crowd) are now buying PS4 instead given that it is/was cheaper, it is selling more, it has way more consistent policies, it is more game focused, and more readily available (and of course it is more powerful).

This is also why XB1 looks more popular in the US among the consoles fans who are socially interacting but in actual sales, ps4 takes the lead hands down because for a more relaxed casual gamer, ps4 is hands down the default choice. Believe it or not those more relaxed console-neutral gamers out there are the majority and those who can swing them wins the generation. So, regardless of what Microsoft would do, Sony will win this generation even in the US and UK, their strategies (such as buying exclusives etc) will have a limited appeal, as console-neutral crowd overwhelmingly prefers the PS4.



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Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

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Right now PS4 isn't dominating, so it entirely depends on the next 5 - 17 months and what both MS and Sony do. Nobody can say for sure who will win US.



 

theres much more unforeseeable stuff that can happen lets wait and see what happens by the end of the year.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

HAHAHAAHAHAHA.



Tsubasa Ozora

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Sorry, you are wrong.

Xbox One is only 670k units behind in US despite all the bad press, negative PR, arrogant and mixed messages, $100 more price point.

Despite this, many games have still sold more on xbox one than ps4 in US with much higher attach rate, like call of duty ghosts and battlefield 4.

With price parity now at $399, upcoming holiday bundles, Halo MCC, and next year Halo 5, Xbox will win US and UK.

Now, I can agree that xbox one will not win anywhere close to the margin that xbox 360 spanked ps3 (by 17 million) but in the end, Xbox will win US and UK while PS4 wins globally.

This site never fails to underestimate Halo. Sony has nothing even close to it that will appeal to the US and UK market who love shooters. Halo is a true system seller and by the time holiday 2015 comes along and beyond, MS will start to gear up even more with potential price cuts, even more bundles and maybe gears of war collection.



waza2323 said:

Sorry, you are wrong.

Xbox One is only 670k units behind in US despite all the bad press, negative PR, arrogant and mixed messages, $100 more price point.

Despite this, many games have still sold more on xbox one than ps4 in US with much higher attach rate, like call of duty ghosts and battlefield 4.

With price parity now at $399, upcoming holiday bundles, Halo MCC, and next year Halo 5, Xbox will win US and k.

  Now, I can agree, xbox one will not win anywhere close to the margin that xbox 360 spanked ps3 (by 17 million) but in the end, Xbox wil win US and UK while PS4 wins globally.

This site never fails to underestimate Halo. Sony has nothing even close to it that will appeal to the US and UK market who love shooters. Halo is a true system seller and by the time holiday 2015 comes along and beyond, MS will start to gear up even more with potential pice cuts, even more bundles and maybe egars of war collection.

 

PS2 have sold 40,000,000 more than XBOX in USA...



waza2323 said:

Sorry, you are wrong.

Xbox One is only 670k units behind in US despite all the bad press, negative PR, arrogant and mixed messages, $100 more price point.

Despite this, many games have still sold more on xbox one than ps4 in US with much higher attach rate, like call of duty ghosts and battlefield 4.

With price parity now at $399, upcoming holiday bundles, Halo MCC, and next year Halo 5, Xbox will win US and k.

Now, I can agree, xbox one will not win anywhere close to the margin that xbox 360 spanked ps3 (by 17 million) but in the end, Xbox wil win US and UK while PS4 wins globally.

This site never fails to underestimate Halo. Sony has nothing even close to it that will appeal to the US and UK market who love shooters. Halo is a true system seller and by the time holiday 2015 comes along and beyond, MS will start to gear up even more with potential pice cuts, even more bundles and maybe egars of war collection.

 

IIRC, who had the US before the 360...By how many units.

How reliable to console brand do you think the US? The 360 had a year to establish itself as the brand of choice. Any gap right now is extremely dangerorous because it could easily flip again.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

PS4 will outsell XBOX ONE by 2:1 in USA, and 3:1 in UK.

I said this.