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baloofarsan on 21 August 2014

Are the cancelling of major franchise games for Wii U really a sign of damage control from 3rd Party developers?

Are Ubisoft, Activision and Warner sensing something bad coming and are trying to minimize financial damage trough cutting costs i.e. Wii U port cost?

Three examples:

The combined PS360 sales for the last years look like this (all numbers in millions):

1. Assassin's Creed
Sales of Assassin's Creed games took a bad turn after ACIII. This year there are two versions of the game, one for the old generation and one for the new. Will there be any interest left for the old gen. game? Was ACIII the great game that gave the sales a peak or was it the game that gave AC-series a bad name, giving ACIV less sales and with its resemblance to AC: Rouge will give it even lower sales?
2009: 5.35+5.11=10.46 (ACII)
2010: 3.31+2.70=6.01(Brotherhood)
2011: 4.06+4.11=8.16 (Revelations)
2012: 5.94+4.91=10.85 (ACIII)
2013: 3.10+2.71=5.81 (ACIV)
2013 has the first sales for PS4 and XOne:1.75+0.84=2.59
Totally for all 4 consoles 2013 ends up with sales of 8.40
2.Call of Duty
COD peaked its sales in 2011. With a supposedly new engine for the new generation - how will it downgrade to PS360?  Are the dudebros still interested?
2009: 13.25+10.39=23.64
2010: 14.08+12.21=26.29
2011: 14.27+12.93=27.20
2012: 12.97+12.83=25.00
2013: 8.90+8.20=17.10
2013 has the first sales for PS4 and XOne:2.47+1.93=4.40
Totally for all 4 consoles 2013 ends up with sales of 21.50
3.Batman
The third Arkham game lost almost 2/3 of those that bought the previous game. The fourth game will try to make it without support from PS360. Will the graphical enhancement boost sales again?
2009: 4.02+3.29=7.31
2011: 4.97+4.39=9.36
2013: 1.74+1.44=3.18
Is it franchise fatigue, console generation change or symptoms of a general decline that makes these flagship look like they are out for a tough ride.
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This was written in the middle of the night as a cough held me awake so there are probably a lot of facts that are wrong.


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chapset on 21 August 2014

Other than batman, I don't really see your point, I mean ass creed 4 is not even 1 year old it will keep selling for a while at cheaper prices even when the next one is out, how much did all the previous one sale after less than a year on the market? Same thing for cod. Plus don't forget that more and more people are choosing to download digitally instead of buying at retail



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Seece on 21 August 2014

Games/Franchises were declining before XB1/PS4 because people grew tired of those consoles. It's going to take a while for this gens install base to shoot up and therefore get back to that level of game sales.



 

Maraccuda on 21 August 2014

If they were sensing something bad is going to happen with their titles they wouldnt release them annually.

Until I see some values of the cost of porting to another console I do not see how restricting a game on a console is profitable.



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daredevil.shark on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
Games/Franchises were declining before XB1/PS4 because people grew tired of those consoles. It's going to take a while for this gens install base to shoot up and therefore get back to that level of game sales.


Spot on.



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Dark_Feanor on 21 August 2014

Well, lets forget all about digital sales and the PC market, and trust sole on VGChartz numbers...



jlmurph2 on 21 August 2014
Dark_Feanor said:
Well, lets forget all about digital sales and the PC market, and trust sole on VGChartz numbers...


Yeah with how popular digital is becoming I really wonder how VGChartz will adapt. 



baloofarsan on 21 August 2014
chapset said:
Other than batman, I don't really see your point, I mean ass creed 4 is not even 1 year old it will keep selling for a while at cheaper prices even when the next one is out, how much did all the previous one sale after less than a year on the market? Same thing for cod. Plus don't forget that more and more people are choosing to download digitally instead of buying at retail

How are we going to have a meningfull discussion about sales if digital is kept secret? When vgchartz eventually loses all of its credibility is NPD going to be more secretive with their numbers?

Does NPD have digital numbers?



Mr Khan on 21 August 2014
Seece said:
Games/Franchises were declining before XB1/PS4 because people grew tired of those consoles. It's going to take a while for this gens install base to shoot up and therefore get back to that level of game sales.

What of GTAV then?

I think the real story is that most of those franchises (except GTA) were run into the ground last gen. Batman doesn't really count either because the last one was basically a gaiden game.



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DolPhanTendo on 21 August 2014

Maybe they shouldn't release one every 6 months to a year. This brings up another point everyone who hates Nintendo say this "not another mario game" or "all they do is mario or zelda reason no on buys their console". But it is funny Nintendo DOES IT RIGHT look at Mario Kart 8 the first of its franchise came out 20 years ago and only they are only eight, they release one time on each console(2 for zelda series). If you take out handhelds it is only 5. Mario Platformers once a generation but skipped N64 and Gamecube for an action Mario (now we both for the WiiU). I can go on and on with examples. Now lets look at COD 2001 or 2 cant remember when the first one came but with Advanced Warfare that will make 21 types of COD released in half the time. Assassins Creed is already in 7. So who has really over saturated the market?