Yeah..........QUANTITY is the problem.

Hal is roughly same size as Intelligent S but I.S. do A LOT more. Monolith does quite a lot of stuff too + helping but they are 1st.

#Platinum for 2nd party :P

Rare has definitely fallen much farther than Squeenix

Retro is, for lack of a better word, RARE. Many of the people at Retro now made up what was the much smaller RARE back then.

The brand RARE has nosedived, the actual talent never left Nintendo.

Rare is a UK based developer with  200+ people in their prime.

Retro studios is located in Texas and has around 100 employees.

I think you got your facts wrong.

Edit: And to answer the Ops question: No studio ever has reached Rare´s string of quality games with the limited number of employees. Capcom and SE are far bigger .

You're trivializing game development quite a lot here, do you seriously think that Nintendo can just hire some dudes fresh out of college to make them "a few solid 8's"? Game development is a much more time intensive process nowadays than it was in the 90s, you can't just whip out a retail game in a year or something. Look at game series that already existed back then and how fast they were developed in the 90s compared to today.

For example Final Fantasy:

VII 1997

VIII 1999

IX 2000

and today we're still waiting for Final Fantasy XV which started production years ago. And you can find examples like this everywhere.

They are seen as the new "Rare" and have many of the members, but that's not who im talking about.

I seem to have had the sizes confused indeed, but Retro is made up of many Rare developers.

I don´t think "many" people moved from the United Kingdom to America just so they can work at Retro Studios... which itself was formed 4 years before Nintendo´s stake in Rare was sold to Microsoft.

So no, I don´t believe "many" or even a single former Rare dev works at Retro Studios.

Retro has been a part of Nintendo longer than Nintendo owned a stake in Rare. So not new anymore. To those asking if Retro is former Rare members. No. Retro was formed from former Iguana games members who made Turok on N64. These days many of those guys have since split and a good few are at 343. Retro is now made of various people and some from ID software,Naughty DOg and Vigil.

To OP Development costs have skyrocketed since those days. Back then it was common for 1-10 man teams to make a game. 1 man made breath of fire on SNES. 10 guys made Goldeneye on N64. These days devs teams need larger teams and more resources.

Well then I shall need to find some proof, else I have been talking from bad memory!