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Wright said:
AZWification said:
kljesta64 said:
Nintendo gamers are hardcore gamers.

Yup, unless you like Animal Crossing!


You have to be pretty hardcore to religiously play Animal Crossing everyday.


Yeah I dunno what hes talking about I play Animal Crossing daily for up to 6 months at a time.



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Squeezol said:
What is hardcore anyway? :/

Hardcore means that you are always hard at your core! (If you know what I mean)



                  

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Squeezol said:
What is hardcore anyway? :/

Hardcore means that you are always hard at your core! (If you know what I mean)


Damn it, Jizz.

 



So MK8 is not a hardcore game?



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Hardcore games and Wii U...

If it is about mature content and hating cartoon graphic then I think there is no hardcore gamers on Wii U.

If it is about difficulty level then I think CoD, Assassin's Creed etc. are no hardcore games...

If it is about how long someone playing games the I do not know.



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Nem said:
Hardcore gamers purchase the best version. The best version of multiplats usually isnt on the Wii U.

They do buy exclusives though.

This ^^



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

I think people need to understand that the term "hardcore gamer" generally means the male gamer aged 12-35 who buys IP like Call of Duty, Destiny, Assassin's Creed, etc.

Even if that's not an accurate descriptor, that's what is generally agreed upon.

I mean sure, the guy who buys Tearaway on the Vita or Pikmin 3 on the Wii U in the US is probably the most "hardcore" gamer in a literal sense, but really that type of consumer is in actuality a niche consumer.



Of course they do.

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Soundwave said:
To be honest, I'm beginning to feel like Nintendo's problems are more systematic and more deeply rooted in who they are. It shouldn't be *this* hard to sell even 20 million consoles and you shouldn't need a miracle gimmick to sell every single console you make.

I think the basic formula that Nintendo has of selling consoles is still rooted in the 1980s ... that the home console is for kids first, with little Johnny playing Mario as his dad and mom watch over his shoulder and laugh on.

But I think game consoles have simply evolved beyond that to be a home appliance. Like a cable box or a DVD/Blu-Ray player (no one wants a kids centric Blu-Ray player).

Sure Nintendo has their "hardcore" base of fans who are actually mostly adults, but they tend to only buy a Nintendo console for the main Nintendo IP they grew up with as kids. They buy a Playstation or XBox for any other type of gaming.

Selling a game console that somewhere between a toy and a electronic gizmo mostly on the back of Disney-styled mascot gaming characters is just a format that I don't think appeals to a lot of people anymore. Even kids ... you would figure that Nintendo should have a stone cold lock on that market, but kids want a Playstation or XBox too by the time they get to age 10-11, they want to play what their older brother/cousin is playing.

That's why, from an advertising standpoint, Nintendo nailed it with the Wii.  Trying to be too edgy is terrible; it comes off as contrived, and it would make Nintendo look silly compared to Playstation or Xbox.  Going with a kiddy image forces you into a very niche audience.  What they did with the Wii was similar to what Apple does with their advertising:  Make the product a "for anybody" device.  This is Nintendo's best approach for their consoles, IMO.



fleischr said:
Nem said:
Hardcore gamers purchase the best version. The best version of multiplats usually isnt on the Wii U.

They do buy exclusives though.


Precisely this.

If Nintendo can secure high quality mature exclusives like Bayonetta 2, they'll do fine.

At this point though, even if the definitive version of mature multiplat came to WiiU, I don't think it'd sell them best. Could maybe sell well, maybe similar to Resident Evil 4 did on GC.

There's never been a WiiU mature multiplat that accomplished ALL and I mean ALL of the following

-Significantly better graphics than 360/PS3

-Not broken on release

-Not missing features or content compared to other versions

-On time


This is pretty much the reason for the 3rd party problems. One of them at least.

OP:

The term hardcore seems incredibly misued here, but the argument (except maybe the smartphone part) is pretty solid.