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Burek said:
spurgeonryan said:
Burek said:
She should have said: "Gesundheit!"


Most American's only speak English I am told.


I was told that most Americans only speak Spanish, but that's another topic altogether.

Give it a few more years.

America is sadly becoming a stranger place each passing year. 

How stupid is this?



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It's not the "bless you" that's the issue. The teacher has incredibly stupid rules about certain slang rules the kids can't say.

"Bless you, hang out, my bad, dumb, stupid, stuff, and things like that," Turner said.

Those are the words Turner said are banned by her computer teacher at Dyer County High School.

Rules like that with no basis or reason for why are why students don't respect teachers like that. A blanket "no talking during lecture" rule would've sufficed, but this type of micromanagement is completely uncalled for.



kitler53 said:

i had a big rant ready to post and then i saw your post.   if your statements are true then the story sounds like the story was just written to rile people up to push that weird agenda people like my parents have of trying to protray a "war on religion" in america.

...but just in case:

as an atheist i've got to say,.. this is really stupid.

the point of the freedom of religion in the constitution is to protect the citizens of the united states from any religion receiving preferential or detrimental treatment.  the point is equality in law and to know you'll never be discriminated against by the law.

the point is not to try and pretend that religion doesn't exisit and is important to many of our citizens.  for fucks sake,.. if the US president can  say "god bless" during addresses to our citizens then this girl ought to be able to say it too.  

As it stands, we have a "She said, she said" type scenario.

I agree no one should be persecuated due to their beliefs, I also think it is fair for schools to ask for quiet during class time.  This story comes across as sensationalist to divide people of different backgrounds and cement world views of the "other".

On religion, an individual can state they are religious, but the state cannot endorse a religion. Why the president saying "God Bless America" is fine, but "In God We Trust" on currency is not.



There is a fence put up between church and state. There is no place for religion in school , but just pledge your allegiant to the flag and you are ok.



sundin13 said:
Arcturus said:

While the rule is stupid, how was her first amendment right violated?


A large number of people seem to think that the first amendment gives them the right to say whatever they want wherever they want, when it just prevents the government from making laws restricting freedom of speech (and a few other things). Establishments are still allowed to make their own rules, and I don't think anyone would object to schools suspending someone for saying "fuck you" and things like that using the first ammendment as a basis. 

Its a stupid rule, but I really don't think it is violating any constitutional right, but I'm no expert in law ._.

(public) schools are public space where the first amendment from my limited understandings of law should be applicable

 

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personally I consider myself more of an atheist, but limiting a "bless you" and threatening a student with suspension because she used it, really? that sounds incredibly dumb to me



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If this actually happened, it is a stupid rule and an unjust punishment, but the first amendment only prevents you from unlawful persecution by the government. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with institutions, businesses, or individuals. A lot of people think they can say anything they want anywhere, which is totally not true.



Troll_Whisperer said:
Not "God bless you", just "bless you".

The teacher sounds like a wacko.


Well, as a teacher, I can say that kids saying bless you after somebody sneezes can be a distraction.  Especially if they are yelling it from across the room, which is often the case.  Its not really a distraction for any religous reasons, just distracts from what the teacher is doing/saying.  

however, I do have to say that if the teacher is trying to stop students from saying it, and even going so far as to hand out in school suspension because of it, the the teacher is way over the line and has some of the poorest classrom management skills that I have ever heard of...



Only in America.



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The heck?



Sounds like more political correctness bs.

It won’t end until every single word is banned and were no longer allowed to speak at all.