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cannonballZ said:
BeElite said:

When you are trained to shoot, its with one out come in mind.  You survive.

What chocie ? fight hand to hand with a linebacker looking huge dude and his friend so 2vs1 ?


2 vs 1? He had another officer with him. We don't know how big the officer is either. I don't exactly think Brown was much bigger than the officer. 

 

And we are talikng of police here, I don't think they should be training them to just shoot and kill. I completely disagree with what the officer did.

I though the dude was with a friend ?



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Kid was giving shit to/resisting officer, kid gets shot by officer in use of excessive force. I dont really care. Thats what happens when you mix shit cops with shit people.



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BeElite said:

I though the dude was with a friend ?

I believe Brown had a friend with him, yes. But there was more than one officer as well. 



what certainly didn't happen was a gentle giant shot while he had his hands up

probably an abuse of force nonetheless which is up to justice to decide



cannonballZ said:

 

And we are talikng of police here, I don't think they should be training them to just shoot and kill.

Totally and completely depends on the situation.  They aren't out there to die.  If some is coming at them and doesn't stop, I think it's safe to assume that the officer's life is in danger and they have every right, as much as you or I, to defend themselves.  The responsibility for that goes on the head of the person who is attacking them.  I mean, it's that simple, don't attack a police officer.  In fact, don't attack anyone, or you're taking your life into your own hands.



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Old italian(white)men,japanese undergrounders(yakuza),mexican organizations(mafia),chinese organizations(triad) and just about 70% of young black youth all agree on the same thing; Fuck the Police. Its us against them. thats their mentality. i dont fit in any of those categories but i tend to agree with them all. i know alot of people have family in law inforcement but the have to except the fact that they were born into and have to live for ever as a pig lover.



cannonballZ said:
cannonballZ said:


Well then, that sure needs to be changed. First time I've heard they're not trained to wound, but even if they aren't they are trained to shoot. The officer had a choice there, he did not have to kill Brown.


You are correct, they are trained to kill...

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/police-deadly-force_n_5693020.html

 

I think it's really dumb that police are trained to kill a threat, un unarmed threat. I would agree with it if the guy in question was armed, but Brown wasn't armed and aren't officers trained for combat also? 

Didn't Brown have his hands in the air?

I don't know all the facts and I am going to pretend I do, but I disagree with taking a life. 

Did the officer know he was unarmed?  Wasn't the officer assaulted by Brown? I don't know the full story yet, however I do know when you feel like your life is at stake you don't take non lethal shots.



pokoko said:

Totally and completely depends on the situation.  They aren't out there to die.  If some is coming at them and doesn't stop, I think it's safe to assume that the officer's life is in danger and they have every right, as much as you or I, to defend themselves.  The responsibility for that goes on the head of the person who is attacking them.  I mean, it's that simple, don't attack a police officer.  In fact, don't attack anyone, or you're taking your life into your own hands.


I don't condone what Brown did, I would have never approached the officer that way. But even if he put his hands on that officer he did not deserve to die. The officer absolutely could have injured him with a few shots. He shot him in the forehead, and that was the last bullet he shot. Why is he aiming for his head? If the officer was a good shot like that he could have easily shot his legs and torso.

The officer is just as much a criminal as Brown IMO. Let's not forget that Brown was unarmed, and supposedly had his hands in the air. By other officer's account Brown bumrushed the officer, even if that's true that still doesn't make it right. 



WrathofTank said:

Did the officer know he was unarmed?  Wasn't the officer assaulted by Brown? I don't know the full story yet, however I do know when you feel like your life is at stake you don't take non lethal shots.


The officer obviously saw brown was unarmed. He may have feared an ass whippin', but I doubt he feared for his life. 

If the officer feared for his life then maybe he isn't suited for that type of work.

Why 6 shots? Why aim for the head?

If that's regular protocol for the officers then things need to be changed. 

What really pisses me off is all these idiots rioting like it's going to make a difference. Yeah, let's rob some stores and beat people up that had absolutely nothing to do with it. 



We live in a police state and this is just an exercise on how effective or rather how complacent the general population has become with that fact