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Baalzamon said:
BeElite said:

Yes im sure they are losing sleep over vgs undertracking.  Some of you need to get real, how the hell do you even come up with such delusion of grandeur.  

How do we come up with it? Sony IS a VgChartz Pro customer. Do you think they are simply getting the information just for shits and giggles? I'd say they get it for legitimate business purposes. So it has nothing to do with delusion. Quite the opposite, actually. The ones in this forum (such as yourself) that do not believe Sony uses any VgChartz information need to open your eyes, and realize that simply isn't the case.

Do you even know which information is being used by Sony and for what?



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DrDoomz said:
Baalzamon said:
BeElite said:

Yes im sure they are losing sleep over vgs undertracking.  Some of you need to get real, how the hell do you even come up with such delusion of grandeur.  

How do we come up with it? Sony IS a VgChartz Pro customer. Do you think they are simply getting the information just for shits and giggles? I'd say they get it for legitimate business purposes. So it has nothing to do with delusion. Quite the opposite, actually. The ones in this forum (such as yourself) that do not believe Sony uses any VgChartz information need to open your eyes, and realize that simply isn't the case.

Do you even know which information is being used by Sony and for what?

My guess would be that they use the Pro service as well as other services to see their competitions numbers and also see public perception of their sales.



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DrDoomz said:

Do you even know which information is being used by Sony and for what?

For certain, no. But you apparently do, because you called me delusional for indicating they likely do use the data.

I really wouldn't be surprised if they consistently use it as a weekly source of sales to consumers, however.



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Nicklesbe said:
DrDoomz said:
Baalzamon said:
BeElite said:

Yes im sure they are losing sleep over vgs undertracking.  Some of you need to get real, how the hell do you even come up with such delusion of grandeur.  

How do we come up with it? Sony IS a VgChartz Pro customer. Do you think they are simply getting the information just for shits and giggles? I'd say they get it for legitimate business purposes. So it has nothing to do with delusion. Quite the opposite, actually. The ones in this forum (such as yourself) that do not believe Sony uses any VgChartz information need to open your eyes, and realize that simply isn't the case.

Do you even know which information is being used by Sony and for what?

My guess would be that they use the Pro service as well as other services to see their competitions numbers and also see public perception of their sales.

Shhhh. Don't tell him that. I wanted him to answer.... :(



Baalzamon said:
DrDoomz said:

Do you even know which information is being used by Sony and for what?

1) For certain, no.

2) But you apparently do, because you called me delusional for indicating they likely do use the data.

3) I really wouldn't be surprised if they consistently use it as a weekly source of sales to consumers, however.

1) Oh, so you're guessing. Is there any logic supporting your inference on why Sony would even bother using VGC numbers to track their sales? Do you think they won't have internal sales information available on top of their own market analysts?

2) Wait. When exactly did I say that? I don't remember even addressing you. Mind you, it's possible (I've posted quite a few times today), I just don't remember you at all.

3) see 1)



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You seem SO sure that that is the only thing they use it for. I just can't even do this thread anymore. Everybody apparently knows more about the exact information than I do. They know Sony is releasing 100% accurate information. They know Sony has massively more (and relevant) information than VgChartz. They know that Sony does NOT use VgChartz Pro for weekly sales data of their own console, because they clearly would never need to know what their console is selling weekly.

You guys just seem to know so many things, and be certain of so many things, it is quite literally impossible to even counter you, because you refuse to accept anything else is true.

Where are you getting all of this knowledge about the information Sony has? I'd love to see it, so I don't keep babbling on when there is apparently public knowledge about what information Sony uses.



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kirby007 said:

likely they also added PAID preorders for the countries where supply hasn't met demand yet y/n?


They Said 10M on people's house. So preorder wouldn't qualify, but who knows sony assumed a percentage already delivered.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Baalzamon said:
You seem SO sure that that is the only thing they use it for. I just can't even do this thread anymore. Everybody apparently knows more about the exact information than I do. They know Sony is releasing 100% accurate information. They know Sony has massively more (and relevant) information than VgChartz. They know that Sony does NOT use VgChartz Pro for weekly sales data of their own console, because they clearly would never need to know what their console is selling weekly.

You guys just seem to know so many things, and be certain of so many things, it is quite literally impossible to even counter you, because you refuse to accept anything else is true.

Where are you getting all of this knowledge about the information Sony has? I'd love to see it, so I don't keep babbling on when there is apparently public knowledge about what information Sony uses.

From your post I would say that you think everyone is mistaken and you right. Everyone disagree that sony relies on vgc for their sale not that they use it.

You just looked like the chess pidgeon here. And all the over the top drama.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

You keep saying I'm guessing, but you aren't? WHERE is this information that indicates Sony is doing it how you say they are? You have absolutely no clue what information Sony is using, so to say they don't use VgChartz for their own weekly sales is no more a guess than to say they do use it.

Everybody needs to stop saying Sony has this or that or does something in this method as if it is fact. You don't have a damned clue what Sony has, so say you believe that is the case, or seriously just stop posting.

I was completely awed yesterday when somebody told me as a matter of fact that audited financial statements must be correct to the cent, when that literally could not be farther from the truth.

This thread is just so filled with people pulling facts out of their ass it is unbelievable.



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Baalzamon said:
You seem SO sure that that is the only thing they use it for. I just can't even do this thread anymore. Everybody apparently knows more about the exact information than I do. They know Sony is releasing 100% accurate information. They know Sony has massively more (and relevant) information than VgChartz. They know that Sony does NOT use VgChartz Pro for weekly sales data of their own console, because they clearly would never need to know what their console is selling weekly.

You guys just seem to know so many things, and be certain of so many things, it is quite literally impossible to even counter you, because you refuse to accept anything else is true.

Where are you getting all of this knowledge about the information Sony has? I'd love to see it, so I don't keep babbling on when there is apparently public knowledge about what information Sony uses.

Here, this might help:

http://youtu.be/JBjAyrX7wms