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HEMSTAR on 16 August 2014
Slade6alpha said:
VanceIX said:
Many of those studios will never pan out. Maybe a couple studios with big hits, but not all of them.

And it's not like Sony is giving financial support to all the indie devs. They cherry-pick a few promising ones and go from there. Sony's sponsorship of indies is pretty overblown.

This is something I can definitely agree with. Nintendo does just as well with Indies, but they barely get the recognition as Sony. 

No they don't, i don't see Nintendo promoting indies from the rooftops like Sony does nor do i see as many indie games on their systems compared to Sony's.



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VanceIX on 16 August 2014
DrDoomz said:

You comment about how not all indies pan out was pretty irrelevant. I mean, the Earth has a lot of water, too, but don't see how that has to do with anything.

Not dissing, just downplaying it in your usual passive-aggressive-I-think-they're-doing-good-but-not-really kind of way. They've done great for the indie industry. It is also a great business decision on their part. No one said (in this thread at least) that they were the "powerful patron of indies", what they have done was go in the opposite direction of MS' initial indie strongarm policies. Credit where credit is due. Geez.

I'm downplaying them? Just pointing out that the notion that Sony is nurturing indies so that they may one day become great studios is a bit overstated. There are only a few indies that they have prioritized, and even fewer that will become anything. Their policies are great, as I've said in this thread and in others, so I'm not downplaying them, just pointing out that people shouldn't get their hopes up about Sony amassing a lot of successful indie devs. Jeeze. 

Mystro-Sama said:
VanceIX said:
Many of those studios will never pan out. Maybe a couple studios with big hits, but not all of them.

And it's not like Sony is giving financial support to all the indie devs. They cherry-pick a few promising ones and go from there. Sony's sponsorship of indies is pretty overblown.


Of course not all will grow. The fact that some will is good enough.

Perhaps. We'll see. I would certainly love to see some great devs come out from the indie market, and if Sony can gain favor with a few kudos to them. 



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Mr Puggsly on 16 August 2014

Paying for console exclusive indie games is much cheaper than AAA exclusives.

There is also an audience for indie games which is why they're heavily pushed.



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Gnac on 16 August 2014
HEMSTAR said:
Slade6alpha said:

This is something I can definitely agree with. Nintendo does just as well with Indies, but they barely get the recognition as Sony. 

No they don't, i don't see Nintendo promoting indies from the rooftops like Sony does nor do i see as many indie games on their systems compared to Sony's.

Tell me about this rooftop promotion thing



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Vena on 16 August 2014
HEMSTAR said:

No they don't, i don't see Nintendo promoting indies from the rooftops like Sony does nor do i see as many indie games on their systems compared to Sony's.


You know, Nintendo actually promoted Shovel Knight, right? Like quite a bit (Steam helped them a good bit by putting them front and center during Summer Sale). The game was good and got the recognition is deserved from Nintendo.



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GhetooBillGates on 16 August 2014
Gnac said:
GhetooBillGates said:
Q-Games was making Pixel Junk now they are making The Tomorrow Children which is essentially 3D minecraft with lot of influences from other games aswell quite the ambitious game from its initial trailer. Another thing that caught my eye was some of there rendering techniques including their hyper realistic reflections dat Cone Voxel Ray tracing in full effect. Your theory is absolutely correct alot of third party developers are in big trouble whether or not they would like to admit but they wont do it publicly. These guys will come in and do a hostile takeover the market will be owned by them and publishers may even get sacked alot of developers are going the self publishing route even the Ubisoft guys making Wild are doing just that.

Is this some sort of Ken Kutaragi 4D reference

Maybe it is a Kutargi reference *shrugs* I dont know to much about the game to make an accurate description the trailer seemed alll over the place and had no clear focus a bit on the weird side aswell . I need to see more but i am liking what i have seen thus far quite the intriguing title it shows how far the stuido came and how Sonys support motivated them  and  i misss Krazy Ken he was a very gifted engineer one who worshiped exotic alien hardware but we cant take anything away from his accomplishements the PS1 and PS2 Salute. 



Gnac on 16 August 2014
GhetooBillGates said:
Gnac said:

Is this some sort of Ken Kutaragi 4D reference

Maybe it is a Kutargi reference *shrugs* I dont know to much about the game to make an accurate description the trailer seemed alll over the place and had no clear focus a bit on the weird side aswell . I need to see more but i am liking what i have seen thus far quite the intriguing title it shows how far the stuido came and how Sonys support motivated them  and  i misss Krazy Ken he was a very gifted engineer one who worshiped exotic alien hardware but we cant take anything away from his accomplishements the PS1 and PS2 Salute. 

CAN I BORROW YOUR BRAIN FOR A WHILE

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GhetooBillGates on 16 August 2014
Gnac said:
GhetooBillGates said:
Gnac said:

Is this some sort of Ken Kutaragi 4D reference

Maybe it is a Kutargi reference *shrugs* I dont know to much about the game to make an accurate description the trailer seemed alll over the place and had no clear focus a bit on the weird side aswell . I need to see more but i am liking what i have seen thus far quite the intriguing title it shows how far the stuido came and how Sonys support motivated them  and  i misss Krazy Ken he was a very gifted engineer one who worshiped exotic alien hardware but we cant take anything away from his accomplishements the PS1 and PS2 Salute. 

CAN I BORROW YOUR BRAIN FOR A WHILE

my god this is going to be fucking AMAZING

*Gets surgery removes Brain gives to Gnac*

Here you go all yours buddy take good care of it. 



DrDoomz on 16 August 2014
VanceIX said:
DrDoomz said:

You comment about how not all indies pan out was pretty irrelevant. I mean, the Earth has a lot of water, too, but don't see how that has to do with anything.

Not dissing, just downplaying it in your usual passive-aggressive-I-think-they're-doing-good-but-not-really kind of way. They've done great for the indie industry. It is also a great business decision on their part. No one said (in this thread at least) that they were the "powerful patron of indies", what they have done was go in the opposite direction of MS' initial indie strongarm policies. Credit where credit is due. Geez.

1) I'm downplaying them?

2) Just pointing out that the notion that Sony is nurturing indies so that they may one day become great studios is a bit overstated.

3) There are only a few indies that they have prioritized, and even fewer that will become anything.

4) Their policies are great, as I've said in this thread and in others, so I'm not downplaying them, just pointing out that people shouldn't get their hopes up about Sony amassing a lot of successful indie devs. Jeeze. 

 

1) In your usual passive-aggressive-I-think-they're-doing-good-but-not-really kind of way, yes.

2) Based on?

3) "Few" is a subjective term. In comparison to their competitors, certainly not "few". If you're talking about all indie devs in general, then duh, water is wet, too but isn't really relevant.

4) People aren't "getting their hopes up" about succesful indie devs at all. At least not in this thread. It was about the intelligent business decision making that came into the supporting of indie devs as some of them may very well become AAA's in the future. Which makes sense and is the same principle followed by venture capitalism.



LudicrousSpeed on 16 August 2014

One big factor in the indie push on PS4 is Microsoft's parity clause. It has a stipulation in there regarding games that already have deals in place with Sony or Nintendo before they come to MS. Various indie developers have talked about rushing to get a deal done with Sony so that they could eventually release their games on Xbox as well.

Either way Sony has finally come around on indies. Doing much better than they did with PS3.