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PullusPardus said:
MoHasanie said:
PullusPardus said:


I have a feeling you believe in Chemtrails too.

How do governments make it up when they actually don't give a damn about it but instead most of their resources are spent on military ?

Yes you're right! I see them everyday in the sky. You can see much more in the populated areas like in downtown and they don't disappear for a couple of hours! 

Their resources are spent on the military, who then go invade other countries and steal their resouces. 

 


Then do they make up something that go against themselves? 

And about chemtrails why do they waste valuable chemicals on people who they don't even care about in the first place?

Yeah, you're reading my mind. They support you one minute, and then back stab you the next. Like what they did with Saddam and many others. See in the end, there was no proof Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. 

I'm not sure about the chem trails. Maybe they're testing chemicals, so that they can study their effects and use them in weapons. 



    

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Probably because they don't want to take the blame for it, though it's not just U.S



Nighthawk117 said:
There's no hard evidence to support nor detract from the claim of "Global Warming"

NASA just launched a new satellite, OCO 2, a month ago, that over the next year or so, should give us the evidence to answer the ultimate environmental question of our time.


No offense but the global warming phenomenon is undeniable, we know that it is about a full degree warmer than it was a century ago. What we are uncertain about is whether or not human activities are causing or contributing to this change. The controversy is whether or not what we are experiencing is indeed anthropogenic global warming. I personally think that it is and I expect an oceanic limnic eruption to destabalize Earth's climate catastrophically. Who cares though, Earth is barely within the habitibility zone of Sol and will be uninhabitable within a few hundred million years anyway.



I don't deny climate change, I deny how scientist think it's happening.



BraveNewWorld said:

Climate change is natural. You can't and won't stop it.

And always remember; the Earth is finite, the human species is potentially infinite.

Can't stop it, but we do have an effect on it. Humans are doing a good job accelerating the process. Rapid changes is what kills. For exmaple, the latest theories make life itself responsible for the great dying. http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2014/04/the-great-dying-was-earths-colossal-extinction-event-caused-by-microbes.html That was only at 6 degrees higher temperature than now. Life can stabalize the climate, can also mess it up.

Luckily the current land mass configuration of the earth is pretty beneficial to surviving a hothouse period, plenty of land in the cooler northern latitudes. Sea level goes up and down too with the climate, it was 120 meters lower during the last ice age, can go up another 60-70 meters.

It is currently accelerating since the industrial age started

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Past-150000-Years-of-Sea-Level-History-Suggests-High-Rates-of-Future-Sea-Level-Rise.html

What is the best course of action. Predict the changes and plan accordingly full steam ahead, or try to slow the change and gain more time to adapt. Ignore any changes are happening probably isn't the best course.



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MoHasanie said:

]Yeah, you're reading my mind. They support you one minute, and then back stab you the next. Like what they did with Saddam and many others. See in the end, there was no proof Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. 

I'm not sure about the chem trails. Maybe they're testing chemicals, so that they can study their effects and use them in weapons. 

They had no proof, but Saddam was threatening my hometown back then (Kuwait) and other neighbors with chemical weapons (that he already used before by the way http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack ) he himself bragged about Weapons of mass destruction. This is because Iran was also threatining (and still is) about their own weapons of mass destruction.

And I'm not even talking about the first gulf war. Thats something I lived through personally as a kid.



bouzane said:
Nighthawk117 said:
There's no hard evidence to support nor detract from the claim of "Global Warming"

NASA just launched a new satellite, OCO 2, a month ago, that over the next year or so, should give us the evidence to answer the ultimate environmental question of our time.


No offense but the global warming phenomenon is undeniable, we know that it is about a full degree warmer than it was a century ago. What we are uncertain about is whether or not human activities are causing or contributing to this change. The controversy is whether or not what we are experiencing is indeed anthropogenic global warming. I personally think that it is and I expect an oceanic limnic eruption to destabalize Earth's climate catastrophically. Who cares though, Earth is barely within the habitibility zone of Sol and will be uninhabitable within a few hundred million years anyway.

Not only that but the nearer you lived in the equator the more you will notice it. 

Summer is a lot hotter than what it used to be 20 years earlier, let alone 100.

I think because people lived in the US are in the "North" they don't notice it as much. 



PullusPardus said:
bouzane said:
Nighthawk117 said:
There's no hard evidence to support nor detract from the claim of "Global Warming"

NASA just launched a new satellite, OCO 2, a month ago, that over the next year or so, should give us the evidence to answer the ultimate environmental question of our time.


No offense but the global warming phenomenon is undeniable, we know that it is about a full degree warmer than it was a century ago. What we are uncertain about is whether or not human activities are causing or contributing to this change. The controversy is whether or not what we are experiencing is indeed anthropogenic global warming. I personally think that it is and I expect an oceanic limnic eruption to destabalize Earth's climate catastrophically. Who cares though, Earth is barely within the habitibility zone of Sol and will be uninhabitable within a few hundred million years anyway.

Not only that but the nearer you lived in the equator the more you will notice it. 

Summer is a lot hotter than what it used to be 20 years earlier, let alone 100.

I think because people lived in the US are in the "North" they don't notice it as much. 


Actually, the northern regions are the most heavily effected. In fact, the interior of Russia appears to be hardest hit of all. I live in Newfoundland Canada and we had a few days over 40 degrees this summer. That's not record breaking, that's record shattering!



bouzane said:
PullusPardus said:

Not only that but the nearer you lived in the equator the more you will notice it. 

Summer is a lot hotter than what it used to be 20 years earlier, let alone 100.

I think because people lived in the US are in the "North" they don't notice it as much. 


Actually, the northern regions are the most heavily effected. In fact, the interior of Russia appears to be hardest hit of all. I live in Newfoundland Canada and we had a few days over 40 degrees this summer. That's not record breaking, that's record shattering!

Here in Southern Ontario we just had one of the coldest winters in a long time and now this month is dubt Augtober. 17 degrees during the day, 10 at night. Last month felt more like September too. The climate is getting less stable / less predicatable. Last year airco was very much needed with kids, this year we hardly used it. At least no drought this year.



Climate change is inevitable as others have already said. I don't think we as humans are going to effect it enough to stray from its cycle (unless of course a nuclear war or something).

After all, the ice caps have been breaking records in land mass last I heard.