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prinz_valium on 14 August 2014
eFKac said:

 


Because the best MS console was better until like 2009, and then PS3 blown it out of the water? The worst Sony console was still pretty fucking amazing all said & done, even with the bumpy start.

Why bias? Because you still insist that the main reason is/was MS hated brand vs loved PS brand and consumers are stupid. It is not the case. PS consoles are better to many people, for various reasons, discrediting them and saying it's just cause of hate is very unfair to those consumers and people who make PlayStation.

And how can you state so decisively that a consistently better MS console wouldn't outsell an inferior PS console? Because some guys told you they would never buy an Xbox? Come on, this isn't a serious argument unless that sample was 40 million guys (there are like 80 million Germans right?)

 

if its not brand/company awareness

why sold the x360 so much better in uk but still badly compared to the ps3 in mainland europe?

 

 

ofc its one of the main reasons.

what about nintendo? no love in the uk beside the wii

 

 

that all has nothing to do with loved and not loved brands and companys?



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BanMeNowPlease on 14 August 2014
Garland said:
Neodegenerate said:
Garland said:
Train wreck said:
He is right guys, the Xbox will win the console war globally in the US...and maybe China. The Europeans will discard the One as a NSA box and embrace it full on. In the US, Sony will be arrogant and keep the price of the PS4 at $399 and even raise it $100 dollars because it so popular...also they need the money since they are nearing bankruptcy. while the One will be price at $99 and gain more exclusives such as God of War and Gran Tursimo. In Japan, Microsoft will buy Nintendo so Mario can appear in the next Kinect game, rendering Sony helpless.

That's what my crystal ball is telling me. Q1 2016 cant get here fast enough.

Dude, really?

First of all, China? LOL, it'll be the next india, if anything. It's PC land over there.

Plus Sony's not stupid enough to raise the price of their console at all. And Nintendo? The Wii U isn't even that popular over there.


You couldn't smell the sarcasm dripping off that post?

Sorry, I thought that Train wreck was being serious for a moment there.

HArd to know these days look at the OP, I would normally swear it was a joke or sarcasm, but he means what he said LOL.



Mr_No on 14 August 2014

No, it won't. For that to happen, the Xbox One should have had momentum from a while ago.



Neodegenerate on 14 August 2014
Garland said:

Sorry, I thought that Train wreck was being serious for a moment there.


I'm giving Train the benefit of the doubt on that one.  Though if I am wrong... wow.



BanMeNowPlease on 14 August 2014
Landguy said:
I knew this would be an entertaining read once I saw the title and then read the OP.

Like clockwork, all of the "Sony can't lose" group jumped on this mostly Crazy OP and told him he was a fool for even thinking it. Others just said NO. An then the others stated that "it's impossible".

Clearly, peoples memories are short. The 360 was sitting at a similar position after 1 year on the market. Oddly, they were at the same spot 1 year later, and then again 1 year after that. Most people presumed that at that point, M$ couldn't really lose. A few short months later, a slim and a price cut had changed things. After that, it was a slow road, but the PS3 eventually caught the 360 and by most opinions has taken the lead.

So, what's my point? Point is, it's not over until it is over.

I agree, the odds are VERY small that M$ can even slow down the gap from growing let alone gain an actual console lead.

And I knew you would be here spewing  this garbage...read his arguments, Uncharted and indies is all Sony has??? Come on if he put fgorth good solid arguments this would be fine, it's a joke and so are you for even defending it.

This its early is laughable..MS does not have the world wisde sales of playstation and does not have a price advantage where will the sales to catch up come from???  MS prob wont even win the US, even if they do WW it won;t be close.



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Garland on 14 August 2014
Landguy said:
I knew this would be an entertaining read once I saw the title and then read the OP.

Like clockwork, all of the "Sony can't lose" group jumped on this mostly Crazy OP and told him he was a fool for even thinking it. Others just said NO. An then the others stated that "it's impossible".

Clearly, peoples memories are short. The 360 was sitting at a similar position after 1 year on the market. Oddly, they were at the same spot 1 year later, and then again 1 year after that. Most people presumed that at that point, M$ couldn't really lose. A few short months later, a slim and a price cut had changed things. After that, it was a slow road, but the PS3 eventually caught the 360 and by most opinions has taken the lead.

So, what's my point? Point is, it's not over until it is over.

I agree, the odds are VERY small that M$ can even slow down the gap from growing let alone gain an actual console lead.

The main reason PS3 made a comeback in sales was because of Europe & Japan. Microsoft doesn't have Europe & Japan to fall back on like Sony does at all, nor is it guaranteed that Xbox One will receive the same 47+ million owners in the U.S. like with Xbox 360.

Xbox One is no PS3, nor is the Xbox brand that strong over the Playstation brand.



DialgaMarine on 14 August 2014

Uncharted 4 + The Order, BloodBorne, DriveClub, LBP3, Alenation, No Man's Sky, Wild, Destiny + GTA5 exclusive content, all the other indies, and all the other titles that could potentially be out by then like GT7, SSM's new game, Guerilla's new game, etc. Let's not forget that MS themselves confirmed Tomb Raider is only a timed exclusive. If you're gonna list a bunch of exclusives for XBone, don't just list one for PS4 and then try to dismiss the rest. It makes you look like you're trying to trash PS4.

As for Destiny, the fact that Bungie has more of a history with Xbox means very little. Given how vastly more popular GTA4 was on 360, many would've assumed GTA5, despite the perks/ bundles of the PS3 version, would've also done better but were proven very wrong. You have to understand that only a percentage of US consumers have loyalty to brand. Fact is, the majority go where the advertising goes. PS4, so far this gen, has proven to be the dominant system in the US because of it's superior advertising and great PR, despite the 360 dominating the US last gen. Trust me. If people see a bundle for Destiny with all the advertisement of the PS4 version being better, the vast majority will go for PS4. No doubt in my mind.

As for Fifa, I remember Fifa 14 getting an exclusive XBone bundle, and it still sold better on PS4. Not to mention people making the same exact predictions you're making now.

As for you're ratios, not a snowball's chance in hell. The US/ UK, despite the big XBone price drop, have still had PS4 in the lead. Europe this wasn't up for debate. At best, the US will eventually reach a 1:1 ratio, with Europe only getting a bigger ratio for PS4 as time moves on, and Japan is too obvious.

Destiny will probably end up being a far bigger and better selling title than CoD this year. CoD clearly has lost a lot of it's presence that it had in the past, and the new bundle will do nothing against the PS4 Destiny bundle. All that however, is just my theory. I could very well be wrong on that.

I'm not trying to offend you. This was me breaking down your prediction and explaining why I think you're wrong. Also, you should probably check out some of the material Sony showed at Gamescom. They did an excellent job there, and it might enlighten you on what's coming to PS4. Believe me, it's not just Uncharted 4.



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Smear-Gel on 14 August 2014

Threads like these are asking for insults and arguments up the wazoo.

Looks like it delivered.



prinz_valium on 14 August 2014
BanMeNowPlease said:
prinz_valium said:
BanMeNowPlease said:

 

There is a reason PS sells betetr World wide, reasons I listed among them not because europeans are stupid, you should be banned for even saying it.


if im not allowed to call people stupid who do stupid things, or act stupid, yes plz ban me from this side. forever plz

 

but dont lie and say i said europeans (in general) or guys who prefer playstion 4 or 3 over xbox one or 360 are stupid

 

edit: and now im out, or i really get banned

The WORSE sony console had betetr hardware ,  better games and features then MS best, says it all.....Bluray wireless day 1, reliable,PS Plus, Replaceable hard drives, better wheel and peripheral support , better media streaming with Mkv, AVHD files and on and on.
 


u dont even get me.

which sony console was the worst compared to its competitors

 

the ps3 to xbox 360 and wii?

the ps2 compared to the orignal xbox and gamecube?

the ps1 compared to sega and n64?

 

thats why i said the worst playstation console managed to outsell the best ms console here in germany 2:1...

but yeah. maybe some people will disagree. and the worst ps console is the ps2 and best ms console the xbox one.



Landguy on 14 August 2014
BanMeNowPlease said:
Landguy said:
I knew this would be an entertaining read once I saw the title and then read the OP.

Like clockwork, all of the "Sony can't lose" group jumped on this mostly Crazy OP and told him he was a fool for even thinking it. Others just said NO. An then the others stated that "it's impossible".

Clearly, peoples memories are short. The 360 was sitting at a similar position after 1 year on the market. Oddly, they were at the same spot 1 year later, and then again 1 year after that. Most people presumed that at that point, M$ couldn't really lose. A few short months later, a slim and a price cut had changed things. After that, it was a slow road, but the PS3 eventually caught the 360 and by most opinions has taken the lead.

So, what's my point? Point is, it's not over until it is over.

I agree, the odds are VERY small that M$ can even slow down the gap from growing let alone gain an actual console lead.

And I knew you would be here spewing  this garbage...read his arguments, Uncharted and indies is all Sony has??? Come on if he put fgorth good solid arguments this would be fine, it's a joke and so are you for even defending it.

I suggest counseling to help you through it.

I never said any of his theories were right, I only stated that it wasn't "impossible".  I clearly state that (see bolded) I doubt that the sales gap will even decrease and that the OP was proabably crazy to think so.

You seem hell bent on him even having an opinion different than yours.  That's kind of the point of these forums, for people to share their opinons and then we discuss it.  If you disagree, then do that.



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