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So I'm reading a post from this guy at another website I will not name who claims that Blacks are generally less intelligent than other people/races of the world.

He cites to the fact that only 16 (out of 800) Nobel prize laureates have been Black of which only 4 have recieved awards in categories other than Peace. The Peace prize is considered less prestigious than other disciplines, many of which require an education. Filtered by continent as well, Africa has produced the fewest winners out of any other populated continent in the whole world.

He also claims that there has been no civilization that has flourished under majority Black leadership beyond mere tribal status in the African continent. To be more than tribal, the civilization has to have achieved significant advances in cultural institutitons (e.g. art, education), warfare, technology, and/or commerce. Significant to mean avant-garde, at a rate above simularly situated people/cultures at the time. 

Please don't cite to Egypt as a refutal. How would you debunk this idiot? I'm curious because I don't know how to respond to him. 

 



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blacks can run faster than whites


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I probably would give up; He will probably never change his opinion.

Easiest way to debunk him is to point out that intelligence is not the same thing as education.

Then point out that black people around the world have been oppressed, resulting in a lower level of education, whereas people like your racist live in comfortable, well-educated contexts, and yet still don't understand the difference between intelligence and education. Obvious conclusion need not be stated.

Nintentacle said:
I probably would give up; He will probably never change his opinion.

That's fine but I'm curious for my own sake. I'm not too familiar with African history so I'd appreciate some good historic facts. Seems kind of strange if there has never been a civilization ruled by Blacks beyond mere tribes. 

 

 



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prinz_valium said:
blacks can run faster than whites

They are also better at Basketball because they shoot, steal, and run.

He would probably just say how fast someone runs doesn't matter.



reggin_bolas said:

So I'm reading a post from this guy at another website I will not name who claims that Blacks are generally less intelligent than other people/races of the world.

He cites to the fact that only 16 (out of 800) Nobel prize laureates have been Black of which only 4 have recieved awards in categories other than Peace. The Peace prize is considered less prestigious than other disciplines, many of which require an education. Filtered by continent as well, Africa has produced the fewest winners out of any other populated continent in the whole world.

He also claims that there has been no civilization that has flourished under majority Black leadership beyond mere tribal status in the African continent. To be more than tribal, the civilization has to have achieved significant advances in cultural institutitons (e.g. art, education), warfare, technology, and/or commerce. Significant to mean avant-garde, at a rate above simularly situated people/cultures at the time. 

Please don't cite to Egypt as a refutal. How would you debunk this idiot? I'm curious because I don't know how to respond to him. 

 

Dont misinterpret my post please but science actually says this is true. Its not like one becomes einstein and the other is a neanderthaler or whatever its just single digits in percentage or whatever. This has actually not much inpact in reallife.
It also just works if everyone would live the exact same life with the same childhood/education etc.

According to the studies it goes like that:
from "smart to not so smat"
Asians
Caucasians
Arabs etc.
Blacks

And from strong to weak its the exact opposite
Blacks are the strongerst physically
Arabs etc.
Caucasians
Asians.


This of course does not mean that a black person cannot be smarter than average asians. Its just the general "starting point". It has not much to do with racism but with evolution (what ethnicity used which part more in the past) and circumstances of life.

About the civilization thing. Some parts of Europe were just lucky to find out some things then it started to educate people. This could also have happened in africa but that was not the case it was just a coincidence nothing else (not every tribe in America was technologically advanced as the Aztecs/Maya etc and not every tribe in Europe was as advanced as Greeks/Romans)  Then Europe also advanced technologically because every country wanted to destroy the neighbouring country. War is one of the reasons.

In the last few hundred years africa simply had no chance to advance because Europe invaded Africa and because of slavery and whatnot. Even today we take advantage of Africa being "chaotic". We send food instead of infrastrucute because we want them to be dependant. The only thing of value farmers there can produce is food but because of our "free food" the farmers cannot sell their products.  We should built infrastructure to help them help themselves or leave them alone.

The west also gets cheaper minerals / diamonds etc because of the chaos there. And the dictators/regimes etc get more power thanks to our money we used to buy diamonds etc which results in even more chaos.

Europe was just lucky nothing else.



You need to make him understand that the reason for Nobel prize winners being majority non-black is because of opportunities not intelligence.

On the other one, tell him it's hard to know of that is true due to influence during colonialisation or countries like Persia/Roma conquering such areas.

If he answers, 'Yeah but' or soemthing similar, he knows he's lost.



Hmm, pie.

There is no such thing as different "human races". Race is another word for species. If two different colored people can have kids and their offspring can have kids then the original two people are of the same race. Hope that helps!

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Black people were given less opportunity because of racism, and their civilizations were destroyed because slavery.