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KinlochKing said:
Shouldve made it clear in the first place.stupid mfs


Probably wanted to see if they could "sabotage" Sony's conferece but that was such a great showing that they gave up on the idea.



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Why pay for timed exclusivity if you're just going to revealed that it's timed before the game even comes out?



Phil Spence stated they are helping some of the funding of development for the title and that the deal is similar to their deal for Dead Rising 3. That makes me believe that 2015 its 360/XB1 release and then PC in 2016



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If MS or Sony or anybody else moneyhats a TIMED exclusive, I'm totally fine with it. They use their money to take advantage of the early adopters, both the publisher and the platform owner get their benefits, but in the longer run nobody will be deprived of the possibility to play that game. I can wait even if there isn't exclusivity, as I prefer properly debugged games at a lower price and about which I can gather enough infos and journalist and user reviews to avoid buying bad or excessively buggy ones, so waiting because there is a timed exclusive doesn't change my life in worse. Lifetime exclusive could deprive me of something, but timed one doesn't.



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Wait, a lot of people from VGChartz told me that the game is fully exclusive! So who is lying?



michael_stutzer said:
Wait, a lot of people from VGChartz told me that the game is fully exclusive! So who is lying?

Still not much clarity from MS, SE or CD.  Though everything points to RoTTR being a multiplatform game; and yes, that includes the PS4.



binary solo said:
Machiavellian said:
binary solo said:

I'll be so bold as to say it is guaranteed to be on PC because that won't have strings attached. Sony will want to extract a pound of flesh from SE for it to go on PS4 so SE will have pros and cons to weigh up. But I don't there is any credibility to the assertion that MS has a hold over the game beyond 12 months after launch, and it could be as brief as 31 Dec 2015.

I do not believe Sony can extract anything from SE to bring TR to the PS4.  SE already have publishing contracts with Sony and I am sure that will be enough to bring the game to the platform.  If anything, the it takes 6months to a year to get on the PS platform, then it will be up to SE to provide some incentives to get PS gamers to purchase the game more than anything else.


And you can confirm that said publishing contract does not have a clause in it which says "if you put a late port on PS then you have to put in a no cost sweetener and not just release the same exact product that was launched earlier on the first platform" or words to that effect?

Neither Sony or MS have such clauses in their retail publishing contracts.  Retail publishing contracts are not curated like PSN or XBL.  You have never heard of any such deals from either company for retail games.  Even so, I will say that I am making an assumption from what I have seen in the past including up to now based on games released.



Machiavellian said:
binary solo said:
Machiavellian said:
binary solo said:

I'll be so bold as to say it is guaranteed to be on PC because that won't have strings attached. Sony will want to extract a pound of flesh from SE for it to go on PS4 so SE will have pros and cons to weigh up. But I don't there is any credibility to the assertion that MS has a hold over the game beyond 12 months after launch, and it could be as brief as 31 Dec 2015.

I do not believe Sony can extract anything from SE to bring TR to the PS4.  SE already have publishing contracts with Sony and I am sure that will be enough to bring the game to the platform.  If anything, the it takes 6months to a year to get on the PS platform, then it will be up to SE to provide some incentives to get PS gamers to purchase the game more than anything else.


And you can confirm that said publishing contract does not have a clause in it which says "if you put a late port on PS then you have to put in a no cost sweetener and not just release the same exact product that was launched earlier on the first platform" or words to that effect?

Neither Sony or MS have such clauses in their retail publishing contracts.  Retail publishing contracts are not curated like PSN or XBL.  You have never heard of any such deals from either company for retail games.  Even so, I will say that I am making an assumption from what I have seen in the past including up to now based on games released.

Right, because ME2 retail release on PS3 didn't come with any free DLC for which Xbox 360 and PC players had to pay. Sony totally requires extra goodies for late ports, it is known.



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binary solo said:
Machiavellian said:
binary solo said:
Machiavellian said:
binary solo said:

I'll be so bold as to say it is guaranteed to be on PC because that won't have strings attached. Sony will want to extract a pound of flesh from SE for it to go on PS4 so SE will have pros and cons to weigh up. But I don't there is any credibility to the assertion that MS has a hold over the game beyond 12 months after launch, and it could be as brief as 31 Dec 2015.

I do not believe Sony can extract anything from SE to bring TR to the PS4.  SE already have publishing contracts with Sony and I am sure that will be enough to bring the game to the platform.  If anything, the it takes 6months to a year to get on the PS platform, then it will be up to SE to provide some incentives to get PS gamers to purchase the game more than anything else.


And you can confirm that said publishing contract does not have a clause in it which says "if you put a late port on PS then you have to put in a no cost sweetener and not just release the same exact product that was launched earlier on the first platform" or words to that effect?

Neither Sony or MS have such clauses in their retail publishing contracts.  Retail publishing contracts are not curated like PSN or XBL.  You have never heard of any such deals from either company for retail games.  Even so, I will say that I am making an assumption from what I have seen in the past including up to now based on games released.

Right, because ME2 retail release on PS3 didn't come with any free DLC for which Xbox 360 and PC players had to pay. Sony totally requires extra goodies for late ports, it is known.

Can you show me anything that says Sony has a clause to include the DLC or was it just the developer trying to sale a game that was more than a year old on another platform.  By that time you would get a game of the year edition with all the DLC on the launch console anyway.  Do you think the developer expects to spend so much development time to release a game a year later on another console without actually adding some type of incentive.  Like I said, PSN is curated and Sony has those types of clauses but for retail can you show me where it stated the developer was forced to add that content.