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carlos710 on 14 August 2014
outlawauron said:
Teeqoz said:
outlawauron said:
Mr Khan said:
Sold/shipped here?

I still doubt. He gave the PR speak, but didn't quote any sales tracker...

Again, It's a serious crime to lie about numbers like that. Sony aren't stupid enough to do that.

Sony can get sales numbers from the retailers they ship to. Because of electronic registers and whatnot, every retailer knows precisely how many units of PS4s they have sold.

1. It's not a crime at all.

2. It's PR speak, and they did so without quoting where the data came from.

3. It's happens all the time, and I was proven right a few months ago with watch_dogs and MK8.

I will say that if the perfect world where Sony gets perfect data from every retailer, then why they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to access NPD, Chart Track, and Japanese sales data?


One of the few smart posts in this thread... perhaps the only one actually.

People should research more about sales before jumping at these "undertracked" rants.



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Teeqoz on 14 August 2014
outlawauron said:
Teeqoz said:

Again, It's a serious crime to lie about numbers like that. Sony aren't stupid enough to do that.

Sony can get sales numbers from the retailers they ship to. Because of electronic registers and whatnot, every retailer knows precisely how many units of PS4s they have sold.

1. It's not a crime at all.

2. It's PR speak, and they did so without quoting where the data came from.

3. It's happens all the time, and I was proven right a few months ago with watch_dogs and MK8.

I will say that if the perfect world where Sony gets perfect data from every retailer, then why they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to access NPD, Chart Track, and Japanese sales data?


Lying about sales numbers isn't illegal? It is where I live. Even if it isn't, Sony wouldn't be stupid enough to tell a straight up lie on the stage. What PR speak did he use? He specified "and just to be clear, that is 10 million sold through to consumers."

 

Regardless of all that, official sales figures are seen as the most reliable.



BanMeNowPlease on 14 August 2014

People used to say ioi was an xbox fan I always said nah, starting to believe it. HE also posted once and came after sony fans here....



petroleo on 14 August 2014

for the end of september is going to be like 11.4 million, lots of people will buy a PS4 cause of that Destiny game.



GribbleGrunger on 14 August 2014
carlos710 said:


One of the few smart posts in this thread... perhaps the only one actually.

People should research more about sales before jumping at these "undertracked" rants.

What? 9.3m V 'over' 10m ... It's undertracked. Or are you taking an estimate more seriously than a Sony executive with facts?



 

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Bokal on 14 August 2014
Ninsect said:
Bokal said:
Also, the lack of communication from VGC team is... disturbing.

There are already some theads like this one, and noone from the team has commented. Why not?

There is no "team". ioi handles it. Trust me, he is sweating his ass off right now trying to find where he is undertracking it.


There are a few site admins, I consider it a team.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/members.php?name=&gender=&keyword=&country=&type=Site+Admin&order=Last+logged+in



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DerNebel on 14 August 2014
carlos710 said:
outlawauron said:

1. It's not a crime at all.

2. It's PR speak, and they did so without quoting where the data came from.

3. It's happens all the time, and I was proven right a few months ago with watch_dogs and MK8.

I will say that if the perfect world where Sony gets perfect data from every retailer, then why they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to access NPD, Chart Track, and Japanese sales data?


One of the few smart posts in this thread... perhaps the only one actually.

People should research more about sales before jumping at these "undertracked" rants.

There is nothing to research, unless anyone can give me one case of someone in the videogame industry using such a clear and not misunderstandable way of wording things and then still being caught lying, someone actually clarifying "yes I mean sold to customers" and then still actually meaning sold to retailers, there is nothing this argument against the 10 million number being true is really based on.

Also nice way of saying that every post in this thread is stupid mister "Nintendo Defence Force"



DerNebel on 14 August 2014
GribbleGrunger said:
carlos710 said:


One of the few smart posts in this thread... perhaps the only one actually.

People should research more about sales before jumping at these "undertracked" rants.

What? 9.3m V 'over' 10m ... It's undertracked. Or are you taking an estimate more seriously than a Sony executive with facts?

No the executive is obviously lying on one of the biggest stages of gaming and we're all stupid for believing him, duh.



GribbleGrunger on 14 August 2014
DerNebel said:

No the executive is obviously lying on one of the biggest stages of gaming and we're all stupid for believing him, duh.

This gen is bonkers. I've never seen so much false hope and denial EVER.



 

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outlawauron on 14 August 2014
Teeqoz said:
outlawauron said:
Teeqoz said:

Again, It's a serious crime to lie about numbers like that. Sony aren't stupid enough to do that.

Sony can get sales numbers from the retailers they ship to. Because of electronic registers and whatnot, every retailer knows precisely how many units of PS4s they have sold.

1. It's not a crime at all.

2. It's PR speak, and they did so without quoting where the data came from.

3. It's happens all the time, and I was proven right a few months ago with watch_dogs and MK8.

I will say that if the perfect world where Sony gets perfect data from every retailer, then why they spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to access NPD, Chart Track, and Japanese sales data?

Lying about sales numbers isn't illegal? It is where I live. Even if it isn't, Sony wouldn't be stupid enough to tell a straight up lie on the stage. What PR speak did he use? He specified "and just to be clear, that is 10 million sold through to consumers."

 

Regardless of all that, official sales figures are seen as the most reliable.

See, that's the thing. It's not a lie, it's spin. Sold through to consumers. Keep in mind who their consumers are, because we are not them. For all they care, shipped is sold, because they've already got the money from it.

Like I said originally, I'm not saying they're being deceitful. I'm just doubting them because they didn't quote any sales tracker. That's it. We'll find out pretty soon as more NPD/Chart track data comes out.



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