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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Xbox Platform decreases Microsoft's gross margin by $400m for FY2013/14

DirtyP2002 said:

care to explain how?

Well the opening does state that the 360 while profitable sold less, so that means that while having less profits from sales also has less losses from production so the loss of profits is less then the lost of production proyected by the 360. Wich means that the x1 is responsible for a lot more of the increase in production cost while responsible for a lot less of the profit. So that means that the x1 has missed a lot more than $400m. Since the sells for the x1 have been more than triple the 360 I belive and the x1 cost a lot more to produce than the 360, I can Inmagine the the cost of production of the x1 to be around 4/5 out of the total, So the x1 is responsible for almost the entire increase in cost so the x1 is responsible for more than just $400, I say over $1billion.

Again, this dosent mean that is loosing money, just that there is less profit. So they could still be profitable, wich I doubt, but we canot jump to conclusion.



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This should be a wake up call for some people around here.



NiKKoM said:
kitler53 said:
vivster said:
Why did I know that Kowen's already wrecking up the place before I clicked the thread?

Should've gotten here earlier.

silver lining: kowen said he deals with ms on a daily basis confirming what i think we all long suspected,..  kowen is on the take.

Maybe he has a windows pc and we know he has a windows phone.. I myself exclusively deal with Apple..


I find it entertaining.



Lol the topic title is completely misleading, and only a few seem to understand that...



gooch_destroyer said:
This should be a wake up call for some people around here.


We need a wakeup-call for those claiming the Xbox One is not profitable after this "news".
We discussed this back in January btw.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6000966

 



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I'm selling my £1.2 billion worth of shares in Microsoft due to this report! It's not on that MS are losing money on the Xbox division.



Maverik you clearly have no idea what any of these numbers mean, the title should be changed because you're making a huge leap as Kowen has pointed out several times.



 

prinz_valium said:
BeElite said:
 

No maybe about it.  There are no extra sales due to the cut, numbers already show that.  

new kless sku failed to motivate sales.  


this guy again...

is there any funtion to block posts from people i dont want to read anymore

 

the kinectless sku is not even out for 2 month and u talk about "numbers already show that"....

u have no idea what ur talking about. u dont even have anything to compare


You can compare sales before and after the new sku was released.  Did Xbox win June NPD?  No.  Did they see ANY significant increase?  Yes...for about 2 weeks.  Long enough for those waiting on a price cut to buy, but no indication that it made any meaningful difference long term.  Where are we now?  Xbox One being outsold 2:1 in their strongest territory (North America), 7 to 1 (almost 8!) in Europe, and 3:1 overall worldwide.

Your wishful thinking does not influence reality, sir.



Better than the 360 losing one bil



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

thread title has been changed to be more accurate though I'll admit I don't know that it's perfectly accurate as is because I'm not well versed in reading and interpreting these types of financial reports.  



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