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vivster said:
4k1x3r said:
vivster said:
15 million, yes. 17 million? You cray cray.


The PS4 is undertracked on this site (anyone still surprised?) and it's most likely passed 12M by the end of Semptember (huehue dat 11.4M on front page) so you think they can't sell 4/5M for last 3 and most important months of the year? Sounds logical...

Dudes, I said this back in august^^

Still don't believe that 17m is easily achievable though. 5m in 10 weeks? Seems a lot.

 I can see it breaking a million during Black Friday week, and the couple weeks leading up to Christmas, so I'd say it's not impossible.





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ICStats said:
PS3 sold 5 Million by Sep 07.
PS3 sold 4.1 Million in Oct~Dec 07.

PS4 sold 11.3+ Million by Sep 14. That's 126% more than the PS3's sales!

If we assumed PS4 could maintain 126% higher sales than PS3 then PS4 would sell over 9 million by end of year and pass 20 Million!

I don't really expect that, but I expect PS4 to sell ~50% over PS3, or about 6.2 million which will let it pass 17 million.

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the correct way to asses if a prediction falls within the realm of possibility! I was expecting 16M max, but seeing this makes me think even 18M could be doable lol..



VanceIX said:
Fusioncode said:
VanceIX said:

That's because we haven't many major IPs from either console makers. The biggest IP was probably Last of Us Remastered, which netted the PS4 tons of sales when it came out. I don't see why the MCC (which is arguably much bigger in terms of IP popularity and content) couldn't have similar effects for the Xbox One throughout the holiday season. 

I never said it wasn't a system seller. I'm saying that exclusive advertising for multiplats just seems to be doing more this gen.

Not to mention, Microsoft has been exclusively marketing the hell out of Madden, Assassin's Creed, and Call of Duty as well, so by that logic Microsoft should do relatively well this holiday season.

Madden did help XBO. A lot actually. I'm sure AC Unity will have a bigger effect on XBO sales than Sunset Overdrive. Of course Microsoft will do well this holiday season. I never said otherwise. 

Basically I was responding to your comment of Sony needing an "answer" for Microsoft's exclusives. I just don't think that's the case this gen. 

Then I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I predict a huge sales bump for the One once MCC comes out, and a smaller one when Sunset Overdrive comes out. We'll see what happens.

Yeah, both will help XB1 in sales, but Sunset Overdrive will do so only because of the bundles, like Driveclub.



GTAexpert said:
VanceIX said:

Then I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I predict a huge sales bump for the One once MCC comes out, and a smaller one when Sunset Overdrive comes out. We'll see what happens.

Yeah, both will help XB1 in sales, but Sunset Overdrive will do so only because of the bundles, like Driveclub.

Perhaps. Still, even bundles will raise brand awareness and cause interest in the IP. I honestly think that, if the game is any good, it will have solid sales outside the bundle.



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VanceIX said:
GTAexpert said:
VanceIX said:

Then I guess we'll just agree to disagree. I predict a huge sales bump for the One once MCC comes out, and a smaller one when Sunset Overdrive comes out. We'll see what happens.

Yeah, both will help XB1 in sales, but Sunset Overdrive will do so only because of the bundles, like Driveclub.

Perhaps. Still, even bundles will raise brand awareness and cause interest in the IP. I honestly think that, if the game is any good, it will have solid sales outside the bundle.

It might sell well in USA as its a shooter, but I don't see it doing too well. It also has a review embargo till a day before its release, so that will hurt sales if its a good game. Though I don't expect it to be any good.



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ThatDanishGamer said:
Fusioncode said:
VanceIX said:
Possible, but I think unlikely. The Xbox One will be taking a significant amount of the market share with the MCC and Sunset Overdrive, and I'm not sure Sony has the answer to either.

Where was Sony's answer for Forza Horizon 2? Not a single exclusive release yet they still managed one of the largest September sales in history. It's becoming more and more clear that exclusives aren't selling systems like they used to. 

For you.
http://insiderp.com/drive-club-hits-a-million-outsells-horizon-2-2-1-.html

What's for me? Insiderp? I hate to break it to you but their numbers are about as legit as Pachter's predictions. 



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4k1x3r said:
vivster said:
15 million, yes. 17 million? You cray cray.


The PS4 is undertracked on this site (anyone still surprised?) and it's most likely passed 12M by the end of Semptember (huehue dat 11.4M on front page) so you think they can't sell 4/5M for last 3 and most important months of the year? Sounds logical...


Agreed. When I made this post PS4 was 9.3 million at the front page. It changed after gamescom.



vivster said:
4k1x3r said:
vivster said:
15 million, yes. 17 million? You cray cray.


The PS4 is undertracked on this site (anyone still surprised?) and it's most likely passed 12M by the end of Semptember (huehue dat 11.4M on front page) so you think they can't sell 4/5M for last 3 and most important months of the year? Sounds logical...

Dudes, I said this back in august^^

Still don't believe that 17m is easily achievable though. 5m in 10 weeks? Seems a lot.

A very good post found on Gaf

Originally Posted by SwiftDeath

So as we have to burn time and posts until such a time as the attention is shifted from this thread, how about a terrible estimate for PS4 WW sales?

From my post here on US|WW ratios of PS4 sales, sales in 2014 of PS4 have wavered between as little as 30% of WW sales being in the US to as much as 38%.

While the most recent data suggests a 30% US|WW ratio of sales I would qualify that in that time period [from April to August] PS4 was introduced to 28 more markets and while small likely weighed down the rest of the world's share. I think ~34% or higher for the US's share is likely between August 11th and October 4th.

PS4 US LTD since August 10th ~= 681k

At 34% US|WW Ratio, WW sales of PS4 between August 11th and October 4th would be ~2003k, a little over 2M

At 38% US|WW Ratio, WW sales of PS4 between August 11th and October 4th would be ~1792k

So likely the PS4 either approached or surpassed 12M sold through WW as of the beginning of October

And that same person when asked about the LTD at the end of 2014

18M - 19M with little actual thought put into it. WW LTD of course

PS4 has a chance at selling 3M in the USA alone, even with a 50/50% ratio US/WW you get crazy numbers. There are crazier predictions and they're not really impossible, the only thing that could hinder the PS4 is the supply.



GTAexpert said:
VanceIX said:

Perhaps. Still, even bundles will raise brand awareness and cause interest in the IP. I honestly think that, if the game is any good, it will have solid sales outside the bundle.

It might sell well in USA as its a shooter, but I don't see it doing too well. It also has a review embargo till a day before its release, so that will hurt sales if its a good game. Though I don't expect it to be any good.

Release embargos a day before release aren't too bad, it's the ones that are on release that you have to watch out for.

Any way, I think Microsoft's advetising strength can probably push a lot more SO copies/bundles than people are expecting.

I could be wrong though, we won't know until the game is out.



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VanceIX said:
GTAexpert said:
VanceIX said:

Perhaps. Still, even bundles will raise brand awareness and cause interest in the IP. I honestly think that, if the game is any good, it will have solid sales outside the bundle.

It might sell well in USA as its a shooter, but I don't see it doing too well. It also has a review embargo till a day before its release, so that will hurt sales if its a good game. Though I don't expect it to be any good.

Release embargos a day before release aren't too bad, it's the ones that are on release that you have to watch out for.

Any way, I think Microsoft's advetising strength can probably push a lot more SO copies/bundles than people are expecting.

I could be wrong though, we won't know until the game is out.

They are not a bad indicator about the quality of the game, but if the game is good, they do have an effect on its sales as many would buy it when its new if they already know about how well it has scored. Even review embargoes on the day of a game's release aren't any indicator of their quality.

Besides I don't think the game will be good. Insomniac's last two games were mediocre at best.