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PullusPardus said:
kljesta64 said:

dont talk nonsense.

Stay in the middle east for just one week and you would change your mind about this...


You are stacking the deck. He might very well conclude  the middle east has far lower criminality rates than the West, and thus are morally superior to us.

Either way, it sounds to be like you may be trying to hide intolerance and ethnic hatred under a anti-religious façade...



 

 

 

 

 

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Nobody cares because we have a president in the whitehouse who doesn't care about anything that doesn't involve advancing his radical agenda or golf



Yes but what happened?

1. Irak has a classic Middle-East History. While it was a secular and peaceful independent land, under the Ottoman Empire for centuries, it all suddenly stopped after WWI, when Britain took mandated control over its land.

2. After it got decolonized, the country was left in instability and many conflicts arose; this is a classic situation of neo-colonization, like in Africa: when Britain colonialist armies left, they left the ingredient for corruption and instability that they nourished frequently by arming and financing oppositions.

3. Fortunately but shortly, inspired by the panarabic movement of Nasser, Irak became a stable, secular and modernized country for a while.

4. Then during the cold war, the US, in order to attack and destabilize Iran, financed and armed Saddam Hussein. While there was numerous conflict, leading to several conflicts, the US have taken Britain's neo-colonizing role.

5. As for most "dictators" financed and armed by western countries, such as Irak, Pakistan, Lybia, Egypt, Syria...the somewhat stable, secular and independant countries, were at first attacked under false pretenses, like they use to do in the 20th century but a new, more insidious form of colonialism 3.0 emerged in the 21th century: colored revolution and false-flag terrorist cells.

6. Today after destroying and stealing ressources from Irak, which went from a stable, independent, secular country into a hell-hole, now that the US/UK armies left, these same western countries financed and armed newly created terrorists cell like ISIS, who have for orders not to attack American companies and building which are still exploiting Irak, nor help Palestinians, but to plunge the country into an extremist, unstable chaos, and go help their colleagues in Syria, an other stable, secular but independant country that was suddenly attacked by hordes of islamists financed by US/UK/France etc...

Now if you don't know shit about History and Geopolitic like most of you seem to, please don't open it.



goulibouli said:

Yes but what happened?

1. Irak has a classic Middle-East History. While it was a secular and peaceful independent land, under the Ottoman Empire for centuries, it all suddenly stopped after WWI, when Britain took mandated control over its land.

2. After it got decolonized, the country was left in instability and many conflicts arose; this is a classic situation of neo-colonization, like in Africa: when Britain colonialist armies left, they left the ingredient for corruption and instability that they nourished frequently by arming and financing oppositions.

3. Fortunately but shortly, inspired by the panarabic movement of Nasser, Irak became a stable, secular and modernized country for a while.

4. Then during the cold war, the US, in order to attack and destabilize Iran, financed and armed Saddam Hussein. While there was numerous conflict, leading to several conflicts, the US have taken Britain's neo-colonizing role.

5. As for most "dictators" financed and armed by western countries, such as Irak, Pakistan, Lybia, Egypt, Syria...the somewhat stable, secular and independant countries, were at first attacked under false pretenses, like they use to do in the 20th century but a new, more insidious form of colonialism 3.0 emerged in the 21th century: colored revolution and false-flag terrorist cells.

6. Today after destroying and stealing ressources from Irak, which went from a stable, independent, secular country into a hell-hole, now that the US/UK armies left, these same western countries financed and armed newly created terrorists cell like ISIS, who have for orders not to attack American companies and building which are still exploiting Irak, nor help Palestinians, but to plunge the country into an extremist, unstable chaos, and go help their colleagues in Syria, an other stable, secular but independant country that was suddenly attacked by hordes of islamists financed by US/UK/France etc...

Now if you don't know shit about History and Geopolitic like most of you seem to, please don't open it.

So its Britain and USA's fault again? Not surprising. I can understand why the USA wants some form of power in all parts of the world, but Britain hardly has any influence left. 



    

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Serious_frusting said:
Religion is the scourge of the earth.


90% of the time it causes suffering. It might sound bad but if people stopped preying for each other as much and actually helped all of these countries would not be in such a mess. Also these countries need to help themselves instead of screaming for help from more powerful nations then screaming bullies afterwards.

Agreed, the world would be a better and safer place without religion. Praying accomplishes absolutely nothing, if you truly wanted to help them you'd donate money to the cause, campain, raise awareness etc... whats the point of talking to yourself with your hands together?

OT: this is really horrible, nobody should ever be allowed to commit acts like these, yet western governments to nothing. News sites focus on Ukraine and Gaza whwn Iraq is 100x worse, so not many people know and care. This really saddens me.



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haxxiy said:
PullusPardus said:
kljesta64 said:

dont talk nonsense.

Stay in the middle east for just one week and you would change your mind about this...


You are stacking the deck. He might very well conclude  the middle east has far lower criminality rates than the West, and thus are morally superior to us.

Either way, it sounds to be like you may be trying to hide intolerance and ethnic hatred under a anti-religious façade...


At this point i'm afraid I'm not hiding it.



goulibouli said:

Yes but what happened?

1. Irak has a classic Middle-East History. While it was a secular and peaceful independent land, under the Ottoman Empire for centuries, it all suddenly stopped after WWI, when Britain took mandated control over its land.

2. After it got decolonized, the country was left in instability and many conflicts arose; this is a classic situation of neo-colonization, like in Africa: when Britain colonialist armies left, they left the ingredient for corruption and instability that they nourished frequently by arming and financing oppositions.

3. Fortunately but shortly, inspired by the panarabic movement of Nasser, Irak became a stable, secular and modernized country for a while.

4. Then during the cold war, the US, in order to attack and destabilize Iran, financed and armed Saddam Hussein. While there was numerous conflict, leading to several conflicts, the US have taken Britain's neo-colonizing role.

5. As for most "dictators" financed and armed by western countries, such as Irak, Pakistan, Lybia, Egypt, Syria...the somewhat stable, secular and independant countries, were at first attacked under false pretenses, like they use to do in the 20th century but a new, more insidious form of colonialism 3.0 emerged in the 21th century: colored revolution and false-flag terrorist cells.

6. Today after destroying and stealing ressources from Irak, which went from a stable, independent, secular country into a hell-hole, now that the US/UK armies left, these same western countries financed and armed newly created terrorists cell like ISIS, who have for orders not to attack American companies and building which are still exploiting Irak, nor help Palestinians, but to plunge the country into an extremist, unstable chaos, and go help their colleagues in Syria, an other stable, secular but independant country that was suddenly attacked by hordes of islamists financed by US/UK/France etc...

Now if you don't know shit about History and Geopolitic like most of you seem to, please don't open it.


You got everything spot on, except the name its Iraq not Irak.



MoHasanie said:

So its Britain and USA's fault again? Not surprising. I can understand why the USA wants some form of power in all parts of the world, but Britain hardly has any influence left. 

Surprisingly, the US and there allies, and mostly their banks, are responsible for most shit in the world.

Living in France, our country is being ruined by the US, and because of the US we are brought to wars in Middle-East like Lybia, Syria or Israel.

And like in Africa, Middle-East is being transformed in an extremist conflict hell-hole while mainly american (and some European) companies are left alone stealing ressources because the country is to instable to revolt against it.



I hate to say it but I Iraq was better off with Saddam. Dictator or not, suicide bombing wasn't commonplace, children could go to school, there was running water and electricity, etc. The cost: don't get on Saddam's bad side politically. I say that was a small price to pay in hindsight.

Look at the country now, so much better huh?



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Maybe they should fight for their own country and human rights? Maybe they should come out of the age of stoning and murdering woman and children for absolutely no reason. Maybe they should stop marrying 9-year olds and pick up a f'ng math book or a book on international politics and lay down the religious fairytales that say kill everyone who doesn't believe what you do.

If they cannot even help themselves, what makes anyone think anyone else could help them?

My point was not to offend anyone but to get the point across that maybe they should have a different mentality since this one that is a millenia old is not working for them...

"Let's just keep doing the wrong thing until it turns out right, guys! Are you with me?!?!"