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Serious_frusting said:
Religion is the scourge of the earth.


90% of the time it causes suffering. It might sound bad but if people stopped preying for each other as much and actually helped all of these countries would not be in such a mess. Also these countries need to help themselves instead of screaming for help from more powerful nations then screaming bullies afterwards.


dont talk nonsense.



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MoHasanie said:

Yes its very sad. I have to say though, these terrorists aren't just random unskilled men with weapons. They look highly trained and seem to have many powerful weapons at their disposal. I find it very hard to believe than an army of 1 million soldiers can collapse so easily against some terrorist group with just twenty thousand soldiers. Clearly they are very strong and are being backed by some very powerful people.

And unfortunately these mass killings will continue. Only 2% of Iraq is Christian, but what's more worrying is that 65% of their country is Shia, and these terrorists think people of any other faith other than Sunni Islam need to be killed. Very bad times for the people of Iraq.

I read somewhere that ISIS is reportedly one of the richest terrorist groups out there, that would explain their increase in power in such a short amount of time.



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No, because the world is too preoccupied with trying to trash big bad Israel for defending it's borders. But you know... It's okay when Islamist take complete control of a country, force thousands of people out because they're not Islamist, and then destroy a sacred piece of their religion.



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Nobody really cares about all that much about people dying in the middle East, unless Jews are involved. It's all about marketing.

The corrupt regimes of these countries are falling either due to internal protests (Egypt), rebellion (Syria), or outside intervention (Iraq). Unfortunately, the vacuum of power is being filled by Islamic extremist groups which are often even worse than the regimes they overthrow.



Serious_frusting said:
Religion is the scourge of the earth.


90% of the time it causes suffering. It might sound bad but if people stopped preying for each other as much and actually helped all of these countries would not be in such a mess. Also these countries need to help themselves instead of screaming for help from more powerful nations then screaming bullies afterwards.

Harsh but true.

Prayers don't help people, actions do.



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Until the people of the cities these groups are in figure out they dont care about them. Nothing will get done. For instance ISIS has Israel bombing gaza because they are being allowed to hide in gaza and bomb Israel. Which is killing innocent people (atleast from what ive heard in media). Why they dont start a propoganda campaign to get the people to flush these groups out and why the people let this all happen blows my mind.



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osed125 said:
Serious_frusting said:
Religion is the scourge of the earth.


90% of the time it causes suffering. It might sound bad but if people stopped preying for each other as much and actually helped all of these countries would not be in such a mess. Also these countries need to help themselves instead of screaming for help from more powerful nations then screaming bullies afterwards.

Harsh but true.

Prayers don't help people, actions do.


But the prayers can galvanize us into action, with the (at times) unseen hand of God, moving people to do things outside of what they find comfortable. I'll continue to pray for those in Iraq, and the whole of the Middle East. It's a very unstable region, and only God can change their hearts now.

 

What Serious_frusting said is in no way true. Ludicrous, and in a way, sad, but not true.



To be fair, many people do put faith into action and do good around the world, from food programs, building schools, water wells etc.  Not everyone doesnt do anything and just prays hoping for the best, and not everyone is a pias shmuck who tries to force his beliefs upon others.  There are many progressive religious indivuduals who are open to everyone, and work with others towards a better world, with god in their life.

but with that said, their are probably more idiots then outstanding examples. lol

 

(I am not religious at all.  I have just met people from all walks of life, from Pias assholes to deep thinkers, to people a thousand times more caring then i am lol )



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osed125 said:
MoHasanie said:

Yes its very sad. I have to say though, these terrorists aren't just random unskilled men with weapons. They look highly trained and seem to have many powerful weapons at their disposal. I find it very hard to believe than an army of 1 million soldiers can collapse so easily against some terrorist group with just twenty thousand soldiers. Clearly they are very strong and are being backed by some very powerful people.

And unfortunately these mass killings will continue. Only 2% of Iraq is Christian, but what's more worrying is that 65% of their country is Shia, and these terrorists think people of any other faith other than Sunni Islam need to be killed. Very bad times for the people of Iraq.

I read somewhere that ISIS is reportedly one of the richest terrorist groups out there, that would explain their increase in power in such a short amount of time.

They've taken over all the banks in many towns, and are taking many oil refineries. They are rumored to be then selling that oil in the black market. And of course, they got their weapons originally from America, and are rumored to be getting money from Saudi Arabia. 

Here's an interesting thing about ISIS funding I found:

Interesting how most of those countries think Saudia Arabia and the Gulf arab states are funding them. KSA and the Muslim Brotherhood, which are both Wahabi, claim Iran and Syria is funding ISIS. That wouldn't even make any sense since ISIS is fighting against Bashal Al Assad's government, so why would the Syrian regime fund them?!



    

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In situations like this you have to fight. The Iraq military and its citizens have to step up and seek foreign help. Unfortunately the US now has little presence in Iraq and Israel is busy with their own enemy. Europe's not going to be any help; except, maybe, Turkey. Iran is probably going to be Iraq's biggest supporter in this endeavor. It'd be nice if Turkey and Saudi Arabia joined in as well to show some solidarity in the region.



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