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Onyxmeth on 26 February 2008
Stever89 said:
Onyxmeth said:
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Keep telling myself what? That popularity and continued strong sales of minigames on the Wii will not encourage more minigames on the Wii? I must be wrong, because everyone knows Halo didn't start a thousand copycats on the Xbox and Brain Age didn't start a thousand copycats on the DS. We also haven't heard countless developers saying they want to wet their feet in the Wii with something "casual".

 


Well then you need to remember that it's not the old demographic that are buying these games, it's a new demographic. That's called expanding the market, meaning there's going to be enough room to go around for both traditional games mainstream games.

@stof: Fuck yeah. I guess games shouldn't be fun anymore?

I'm well aware that it's expanding the market. It wasn't my point. My point was, third parties don't have endless funds and if they see a pattern that works(i.e. minigames), may start to pursue it more. That means more and more development time for minigames and less time for other genres. It may make the expanded market happy, but not me. I would like the Wii to have that great line-up the PS2 had last generation, which didn't include at anytime minigame collections that were swaying developers' opinions on what to make.

 



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weezy on 26 February 2008
Ari_Gold said:
weezy said:
shovelware outselling any ps3 game on the market?

hmmm.....

 pretty sad mate don't ya think


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cor5151 on 26 February 2008

,,, this was expected i don't see why people are getting pissed, true it might not have been a good game but it has 3 thing "Mario" "Sonic" and "Olympic" it was be dumb to think this game wouldn't sell very well



Stever89 on 26 February 2008
Onyxmeth said:
 

I'm well aware that it's expanding the market. It wasn't my point. My point was, third parties don't have endless funds and if they see a pattern that works(i.e. minigames), may start to pursue it more. That means more and more development time for minigames and less time for other genres. It may make the expanded market happy, but not me. I would like the Wii to have that great line-up the PS2 had last generation, which didn't include at anytime minigame collections that were swaying developers' opinions on what to make.

 


No what the problem is that many of the hardcore games are on the PS3/360, and the Wii has so many mainstream minigames that it looks like they're selling better than everything. Direct from my thread about mainstream users:

To sum it up: Lack of (good) hardcore titles on the Wii make it look like mainstream games are (only) selling really well, and lack of a high userbase on the PS3/360 side makes it look like mainstream games are selling better. In other words, one system has the userbase, but doesn't have the games, while the other (two) have the games, but not the userbase, nor the casuals.

Also, since there's going to be more users in the market, that should mean more revenue for developers and publishers, meaning that they can form teams that work on mainstream games, and ones that work on traditional games. It's not going to take away from "real" games anymore than success of racing games (there are 4 racing games in the PS2 top 10 best sellers) made everyone stop working on action games and making more racing games.



Stever89 on 26 February 2008
cor5151 said:
,,, this was expected i don't see why people are getting pissed, true it might not have been a good game but it has 3 thing "Mario" "Sonic" and "Olympic" it was be dumb to think this game wouldn't sell very well

Would you buy a collection of minigames that was named "Master Chief and Sora at the Olympics"?



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Onyxmeth on 26 February 2008
Stever89 said:
Onyxmeth said:
 

I'm well aware that it's expanding the market. It wasn't my point. My point was, third parties don't have endless funds and if they see a pattern that works(i.e. minigames), may start to pursue it more. That means more and more development time for minigames and less time for other genres. It may make the expanded market happy, but not me. I would like the Wii to have that great line-up the PS2 had last generation, which didn't include at anytime minigame collections that were swaying developers' opinions on what to make.

 


No what the problem is that many of the hardcore games are on the PS3/360, and the Wii has so many mainstream minigames that it looks like they're selling better than everything. Direct from my thread about mainstream users:

To sum it up: Lack of (good) hardcore titles on the Wii make it look like mainstream games are (only) selling really well, and lack of a high userbase on the PS3/360 side makes it look like mainstream games are selling better. In other words, one system has the userbase, but doesn't have the games, while the other (two) have the games, but not the userbase, nor the casuals.

Also, since there's going to be more users in the market, that should mean more revenue for developers and publishers, meaning that they can form teams that work on mainstream games, and ones that work on traditional games. It's not going to take away from "real" games anymore than success of racing games (there are 4 racing games in the PS2 top 10 best sellers) made everyone stop working on action games and making more racing games.

What you're saying is just speculation like I am. I feel this will hurt rather than help my situation as a gamer with the Wii. Unfortunately no one will really know how things like this will affect the market until a few years from now, so let's just leave it at that.

 



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I like Bacon on 26 February 2008

It's an ok game IMO.



Kasz216 on 26 February 2008
weezy said:
4 million ? god damn.

Has any game on ps3 sold 3 million?

 Nope.  Motorstorm is the closest... which is... really sad, now THAT is a bad game.



The Ghost of RubangB on 26 February 2008

Didn't you guys read stof's comment? This thread's over.



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Fuzzmosis on 26 February 2008

Ari_Gold: You're being retarded. Stop. Casual? Sure. Mini games? Sure. Shovelware? See first 3 words after your name. Unless Shovelware means: Title with a lot of effort specifically planned for and made ground up for a console to you. Then... see first 3 words after your name anyway. Feel free to call me out when you feel I am being retarded as well. Such is the nature of life.

Mr. Ketchup: I'm pretty sure, the correct thing to say (And I was one who said doubtful it would sell 4 million) is that you were wrong. I was wrong, you were wrong, Montanna Hatchet was certainly wrong about the sales of this game. It's not I think, it's a pretty clear truth. Why do people have difficulty saying that?

Besides, for Sega, a company that is constantly facing financial woes, this is a nice enormous shot in the shoulder with a mixture of epinephrine, cocaine and amphetamines. Which would kill a normal person. Oh well.



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