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DerNebel said:
amak11 said:
DerNebel said:

I challenge you to find another thread where I suggested that Nintendo should go third party (or to be actually accurate: suggest that Nintendo shouldn't ignore the idea of going third party)

Passing someone off as biased is the easy way to go about those things, why don't you try the other route of explaining to me why what I said is wrong?

Challenge not accepted. I'm not going through 3522 post to find that ( I don't have the 2 hours to do that either). Might have been someone else to be honest. Someone on here keeps suggesting it and your name was pretty close to it.  

To tell the facts though, Nintendo hasn't ignored that idea. They have flat out rejected it and said if Nintendo would, Metroid, Zelda, Mario etc would all be retired and new franchises would be made for those consoles. The idea of having Zelda on a platform other than Nintendo is pretty laughable. 

And the fact that Nintendo has rejected the idea makes it a bad one? I mean, lets be honest here, not every decision a company makes is necessarily a good one. Like I said above, I'm not really waiting for it, but could you give me one reason for why a Zelda release on for example the PS4,X1 and PC would be worse than an exclusive release on the Wii U, from a financial as well as a quality perspective?

It would lose it's Nintendo quality. This is what Nintendo provides. There is good, bad, great, and Nintnedo in regards to quality. There is no way that any developer can make a game multiplatform and near perfect Nintendo quality. This is how Nintendo keeps it's standards high, by releasing it on their own hardware that they designed. 



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DerNebel said:

I think the interest is very much still there, I think the interest in buying a system for them and more or less only for them, since third parties are a rarity on Nintendo consoles, is just not that big anymore.


I dont know. Just dont think the games would be anymore popular on more systems.



These are dark days for Nintendo, I think they just don't have an answer for how smartphone/tablet gaming has devalued gaming.

Even Miyamoto admits he is afraid that hand-me-down tablets are taking away the kids market from them. Casual market is pretty much gone from them.

And Sony/MS pretty much have an iron lock on the male 12-35 market.

That said I'd be in favour of Nintendo seeking a partnership with one of Sony or MS exclusively (for example Nintendo perhaps agrees to support one of their consoles with games if they agree to support their handheld with games and provide some monetary kickbacks) rather than ever going to smartphone route.

I think they will try and see how Quality of Life, amiibo, and the next handheld (fusion?) does before making a rash decision though.



Tlozjb said:
I wonder if it is because he is easily manipulated, so they can use him as their puppet, but either way, Katsuhito should stay away from Nintendo, since if he was the project/planning director for Mario Party 9 and Island Tour, he better stay away from Nintendo and their main software teams.

This is *exactly* what I was thinking, re: easy to manipulate.

(And I should very fiercely stress If any of this is true.)



KLXVER said:
oniyide said:

I seriously doubt it. The systems would be doing just about the same if they didnt exist. Hell WIi straight up stop getting VC support about halfway through and it didnt really change anything.


What? The Wii didnt stop getting VC support...

Features of a console can be a selling point.

yeah it did. when was the last time they put a game on VC for that system? 2012 20111?

yes it can be a selling point, but lets be honest. VC is so low on that list its really not going to have much effect either way.



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oniyide said:
KLXVER said:
oniyide said:

I seriously doubt it. The systems would be doing just about the same if they didnt exist. Hell WIi straight up stop getting VC support about halfway through and it didnt really change anything.


What? The Wii didnt stop getting VC support...

Features of a console can be a selling point.

yeah it did. when was the last time they put a game on VC for that system? 2012 20111?

yes it can be a selling point, but lets be honest. VC is so low on that list its really not going to have much effect either way.

Around 2012. A few ones in 2013.



menx64 said:
oniyide said:
some of you really need to get over yourselves. You are not the sacred holders of anything Nintendo, please. Them having stuff on mobile wouldnt take away from anything they do regularly. The money they could make would be worth it and you could have your "pure" Nintendo. everyone wins. And no it being on mobile isnt going to take away sales from the "real" games since people buying the mobile and vice versa understand the difference.


 The problem with that is opening the door. If nintendo were to release games on smartphones, they will make some big profits at first, but it is well documented mobile sucess does not equal continued growth.

  What I see Nintendo doing down the road is to create a Nintendo app, where you can buy games and play them within the same app. Release VC games on it, but always keeping control of it. Put adds for wiiU and 3ds games there and keep it small.

but they are not growing now and it doesnt look like they will anytime soon. they have to do something. Cause new Smash and Zelda arent going to cut it.

See i like your idea. That makes sense. have it on mobile and have alot of control. Thats pretty good. Its better than people here just blindly saying "No mobile" like some hick conservative



I dont believe this, Iwata is a good president, and no mobile games



This again? Can't they just give the whole mobile shit a break.



If they kick him out of office Sakurai would be best president for Nintendo