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Conina said:
Whatever let's you sleep  at night. But without x86-compatibility the WiiU successor will not gain back third-party-support.

Vena is correct.  While x86 chips would make porting easier from PC or other x86 consoles, it has little to do with how much support they'll give.

Nintendo being far more games focused than either Sony or MS means their CPU's don't need to be so general purpose.  PPC CPU's can be customized for game logic, among many other factors, making them far more efficicent for gaming.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

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Vena said:
Conina said:
Whatever let's you sleep at night. But without x86-compatibility the WiiU successor will not gain back third-party-support.


Its not what makes me sleep better at night, its the reality. PPC wasn't abandoned by Apple because x86 somehow stopped being inferior, it was abandoned because it was more mainstream and available. x86 is OLD. Moreover, x86 isn't going to make or break third party support. Nintendo doesn't have third party support because many (if not a majority) of its gamers do not buy third party. People buy Nintendo for Nintendo first party titles and the occassional third/second party exclusives.

They are either going to do PPC or they are going to do ARM. If they go x86 I will eat a hat. Only Sony and MS were stupid enough (Sony less stupid and in much worse financial straights, and they needed cheap units and couldn't afford to sell at a loss) to go x86 and try and compete with PCs.

Nope.

Apple abandoned PowerPC because Intel had a better roadmap and IBM was not willing to invest in the PowerPC-Architecture. Apple wouldn't be able to build a MacBook Air, that lasts 12 hours with a PowerPC-Chip. Intel has much besser Perfomance-Per-Watt.



Stefan51278 said:

Nope.

Apple abandoned PowerPC because Intel had a better roadmap and IBM was not willing to invest in the PowerPC-Architecture. Apple wouldn't be able to build a MacBook Air, that lasts 12 hours with a PowerPC-Chip. Intel has much besser Perfomance-Per-Watt.


What do you mean "Nope". That's exactly what I said. They trashed PPC because they didn't want to invest in the R&D themselves when x86 was offering better alternatives at cheaper prices. x86 has always had more legacy bloat to it. PPC and ARM have much less, but PPC was all but abandoned because no one built a roadmap for it and no one wanted to invest in the R&D.

Apple was pushing for it to go mainstream for years but it never picked up. ARM, fortunately, did with mobile and now is a solidly developed and R&Ded architecture.



It's gonna be ARM. x86 isn't worth discussing, I doubt that would ever be on Nintendo's radar especially if they are looking for a unified architecture for their handheld(s?) and home device.



Vena said:
Stefan51278 said:

Nope.

Apple abandoned PowerPC because Intel had a better roadmap and IBM was not willing to invest in the PowerPC-Architecture. Apple wouldn't be able to build a MacBook Air, that lasts 12 hours with a PowerPC-Chip. Intel has much besser Perfomance-Per-Watt.


What do you mean "Nope". That's exactly what I said. They trashed PPC because they didn't want to invest in the R&D themselves when x86 was offering better alternatives at cheaper prices. x86 has always had more legacy bloat to it. PPC and ARM have much less, but PPC was all but abandoned because no one built a roadmap for it and no one wanted to invest in the R&D.

Apple was pushing for it to go mainstream for years but it never picked up. ARM, fortunately, did with mobile and now is a solidly developed and R&Ded architecture.

That had nothing to do with "mainstream", they made the switch already in 2005. They just were not able to put a G5 into their laptop, because it was too hot. 



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Stefan51278 said:

That had nothing to do with "mainstream", they made the switch already in 2005. They just were not able to put a G5 into their laptop, because it was too hot. 


By "mainstream" I meant in terms of R&D within companies like Intel and IBM. No one was furthering PPC technology while x86 was moving forward in steps.