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MoHasanie said:

Guantanamo is closed. Or at least that's what we've been told. 

Its still very easy for them to return. All they need to do is go to their embassy and get a new passport. Considering Turkey has opened their borders to them, they can easily return home.

I'm not sure. These guys are strong enough to fight an army. Moreover, their extremist way of thinking will always be a problem since they will spread their ideas and beliefs.  

Not easy at all for them to return. Some parents of those foreign fighters have been revoked their citizenship and deported. They are monitored when they leave the country to go to those areas or absent without reason for a while.

These guys never fought US Army like they do in Syria and now in Iraq. Plus here they wouldn't blend in and hide in the populous like they do over there.

They wouldn't last outside of those countries.



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MoHasanie said:
Goatseye said:
MoHasanie said:
 

Even if they do have secure borders, there is always a threat since they are so close. Its been claimed by some news outlets that 1/3 of these ISIS terrorists are from Europe. That is quite a scary figure. These people are European citizens so they are free to travel to Israel and most other places. 

What they're going to do if they hipothetically go to Israel?

They would have no training, no place to stay, no armaments, no guidance.

They are still a threat. What happens when these radical Islamists return back home? They could plan attacks in Europe and North America. 

And they've received plenty of training in Syria and Iraq. That's the reason they were able to take over large parts of those countries. 

How would they be allowed to return home? You'd have to think every intelligence agency from Ottawa to Ankara has a good idea of who these people are.



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After 9/11 the United States should have gone scorched Earth on almost the entirety of the Middle East. Instead we chose to play politics, which has worked out greatly for US interests, but not from a humanitarian perspective.



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It's so sad, seeing all of this destruction. I long for a world with no countries,no violence and no hate. Too bad that will never happen. -_- My brother is almost obsessed with these countries, but he may never be able to visit because of him being an atheist and having Canadian-American citizenship (I don't want to think about what would happen if they found out that he was an atheist American, that would be pretty scary). I feel terrible for all of the innocent muslims, jews, and secularists that are so used to war that it's just a fact of life for them.



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VGPolyglot said:
The video got removed.

Its better not to watch it. 



    

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Mr Khan said:

How would they be allowed to return home? You'd have to think every intelligence agency from Ottawa to Ankara has a good idea of who these people are.

Perhaps they do, but what if they don't? And multple people have returned from Syria and talk about their experience openly. None have been arrested and who knows how many people they've killed. 



    

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MoHasanie said:

Guantanamo is closed. Or at least that's what we've been told. 

Its still very easy for them to return. All they need to do is go to their embassy and get a new passport. Considering Turkey has opened their borders to them, they can easily return home.

I'm not sure. These guys are strong enough to fight an army. Moreover, their extremist way of thinking will always be a problem since they will spread their ideas and beliefs.  

Then you've been told flatout lies.  Guantanamo isn't closed, the President just isn't sending anymore people there.  He tried to close it, but the Dems balked at sending the inmates to their countries of origin for fear of them being tortured in non-American prisons, and the Republicans balked at trying them in civilian courts on mainland soil.  So, the only fix was not sending anymore people there, and eventually the current residents will die of old age or be released and that'll be that.



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I call fox news stupid. I didn't call the artical stupid. Do you want to know why I call fox news stupid too?

I'm well aware of how television works as a Rorschach Test to a lot of people. They are emotionally engaged on a certain subject and more prone to perceive bias against their own views on television. For instance, bias towards conservatives for Fox News, and liberals for NBC (while in reality they are both more attuned to the will of the same companies - the ones who finance and advertise on them - while slightly pandering to their most proeminent age group). Is that the case? And if so, pulling a negligible ad hominem attack against them is going to help discredit them on the eyes of others?



 

 

 

 

 

haxxiy said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I call fox news stupid. I didn't call the artical stupid. Do you want to know why I call fox news stupid too?

I'm well aware of how television works as a Rorschach Test to a lot of people. They are emotionally engaged on a certain subject and more prone to perceive bias against their own views on television. For instance, bias towards conservatives for Fox News, and liberals for NBC. Is that the case? And if so, pulling a negligible ad hominem attack against them is going to help discredit them on the eyes of others?

He's probably referring to this

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/