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This guy is just a jerk, starting with his 720p comment to the comment about Ubisoft, you know exactly what is coming after...
Yah PC is better, we're getting it now this guy have no clues about the ideas being consoles and why they are aging so well compared to a PC...

Not sure if this thread was needed; just another PC > Consoles thread.



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Imaginedvl said:

This guy is just a jerk, starting with his 720p comment to the comment about Ubisoft, you know exactly what is coming after...
Yah PC is better, we're getting it now this guy have no clues about the ideas being consoles and why they are aging so well compared to a PC...

Not sure if this thread was needed; just another PC > Consoles thread.

As opposed to the tons of Consoles > PC  or Console 1 > Console 2 threads we get?

The OP was just pointing out that the current consoles are already woefully overshadowed by gaming PCs. It could have been done nicer, but it's the cold, hard truth.

And the consoles haven't "aged" at all, since they are not even a year old. 



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SubiyaCryolite said:

I dont think the PS4 or XBox One are super powerful or anything but a truly accurate representation of the systems should always be given, nothing taken away or added. I dont think the Wii U is trash but I dont hype it up to be something its not either. On any scale it would always lean closer to the XBox 360 than to the XBox One (Usable RAM, GPU power, CPU cores, CPU threads, Memory Bandwidth).


This is why there is a huge descrepency  in my numbers. The difference between my numbers and the actual numbers is that they scale better. The actual difference is pretty huge. You are trying to find an argument in something that isn't here. What's the difference between 700 and 500? Let's just add more consoles to the mix since I did put PS3 at 400 and 360 at 450 and Wii at 350. This puts the PS2 at 200, Gamecube at 275, and Xbox at 300 , Dreamcast at 150. Let's go back another generation. PS1 at sub 100 and N64 at sub 100.  

This is what I mean when my numbers scale better. They factor in every damn console I can think of and what their graphical abilities were. There is a significant difference between where the Wii U sits at and the PS4 and One sit at and it's smaller numbers to look at. No shmuck off the street is going to look at 1386 and 386 and this is bigger than the other. They'll mostly be confused and this is where marketing comes in to explain the numbers in a way that shmuck can understand


Your scale is really bizarre... so going by your table PS4 would be more or less 8 times stronger than PS1, not 8 times stronger than PS3? Care to explain how you came to this conclusion?



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VanceIX said:
Imaginedvl said:

This guy is just a jerk, starting with his 720p comment to the comment about Ubisoft, you know exactly what is coming after...
Yah PC is better, we're getting it now this guy have no clues about the ideas being consoles and why they are aging so well compared to a PC...

Not sure if this thread was needed; just another PC > Consoles thread.

As opposed to the tons of Consoles > PC  or Console 1 > Console 2 threads we get?

The OP was just pointing out that the current consoles are already woefully overshadowed by gaming PCs. It could have been done nicer, but it's the cold, hard truth.

And the consoles haven't "aged" at all, since they are not even a year old. 

Not sure what is your point (bold part);  so because there are thread about console > PC, you think it is needed to have PC > threads? Fine, I'm just not sharing your oppinion.

There is not hard truth here. Saying that a PC today with a new video card can produce better graphics is just obvious and I have (as many) no problem with that. But the moron in the video is trying to make a completly irrevelant point he does not really understand what is the purpose of the console. PC being able to render better graphics than console is totaly irrelevant.

And for aging comment, it is about console in general... Not the PS4/Xbox One only...
The same could be said about the Xbox 360/PS3 when they come out... Those machines are designed for a specific reason and in 10 years from now you will see beautifull games comng on those system that are supposely already years behind.



Imaginedvl said:
VanceIX said:
Imaginedvl said:

This guy is just a jerk, starting with his 720p comment to the comment about Ubisoft, you know exactly what is coming after...
Yah PC is better, we're getting it now this guy have no clues about the ideas being consoles and why they are aging so well compared to a PC...

Not sure if this thread was needed; just another PC > Consoles thread.

As opposed to the tons of Consoles > PC  or Console 1 > Console 2 threads we get?

The OP was just pointing out that the current consoles are already woefully overshadowed by gaming PCs. It could have been done nicer, but it's the cold, hard truth.

And the consoles haven't "aged" at all, since they are not even a year old. 

Not sure what is your point (bold part);  so because there are thread about console > PC, you think it is needed to have PC > threads? Fine, I'm just not sharing your oppinion.

There is not hard truth here. Saying that a PC today with a new video card can produce better graphics is just obvious and I have (as many) no problem with that. But the moron in the video is trying to make a completly irrevelant point he does not really understand what is the purpose of the console. PC being able to render better graphics than console is totaly irrelevant.

And for aging comment, it is about console in general... Not the PS4/Xbox One only...
The same could be said about the Xbox 360/PS3 when they come out... Those machines are designed for a specific reason and in 10 years from now you will see beautifull games comng on those system that are supposely already years behind.

Last generation, the PS3/360 were VERY high end gaming machines for the time. The PS4/One, in comparison, are low-mid end PCs at best, and PC optimization is better than ever, so you'll see PC games maturing much better than console.

But I digress. 



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OP makes a good point. If you are really into consoles just to brag about graphics...well you're going to lose any day of the week to the high end PC.

They are just weaker, nothing doubt about it. Now will they have some pretty awesome games that are fun to play? Yes. that's what you should be bragging about.



How much downplay is needed after so many discussions.The consoles deserve fair treatment.,



If Sony and M$ actually released powerful hardware and charged $600-$700 while taking a loss, there would be moaning and groaning. People want cheap consoles, they got cheap consoles. End of story. Not sure why the Nintendo comparison was used though because that just derailed your point.



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SpartenOmega117 said:
OP makes a good point. If you are really into consoles just to brag about graphics...well you're going to lose any day of the week to the high end PC.

They are just weaker, nothing doubt about it. Now will they have some pretty awesome games that are fun to play? Yes. that's what you should be bragging about.

Exactly, which is why i think its stupid to talk about "1080p / 60 awesome graphics!" and then get tech demos , its not good for the industry , especially console market; complain about graphics = get better graphics games that play like crap.



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maverick40 said:
PullusPardus said:

 

Okay this isn't "PC Is better" this is just how much "Next Gen" are "PS4/XB1" consoles are?

I am really tired of explaining how underpowered those two consoles are, you as a console gamer should not buy these consoles for their graphics (actually don't buy anything for graphics thats just stupid), because they are not really much technically advanced compared to PS3 / Xbox 360, and they're much closer to WiiU than you think, the difference is that Wii U doesn't use PC architecture so thats why porting it on there is hard (not really hard compared to PS3 but why make an effort when its so easier to port it on PS4/XB1) , This is why games like Arkham Knight are "next gen exclusive" it has NOTHING to do with "dumbed down for last gen" thats the most idiotic statement ever , its just that they don't want to bother porting them on PS3/Xbox 360 because those are "Hard" to port on, think of it like this , PS3 /360 is like re-writing a text file made on Notepad to re-publish it using a typewriter on paper , however on PS4/XB1 those consoles are made by the same thing the PC was made of, so instead of using a typewriter and publishing it on paper, you can just "copy" the whole text file and "paste" it on both consoles, INSTANT PROFIT ! , you can also try to persuade previous console owners that "ohhh this is next gen!" and they will just buy into it easily, and now you have a bigger cash cow filled with bullshit to conter the mobile phone market

Sony and Microsoft DID NOT MAKE THESE to be "next gen" they made them to be "Easier to develop on" to attract indie developers and mobile developers, they made it PC architect to make games easily ported from Steam to their consoles, arguing about how much more powerful one is to the other and then showing P.R bullshit said by Sony and Microsoft as an argument is just fucking stupid , no offense, they want you to warrant a purchase but you're not getting "Next Gen graphics!!!" you're getting "Easier to develop on" consoles, now you go on and talk about AAAAAAAA (infinite As) game development you don't really understand that AAA is what they are trying to AVOID here, as they are trying to lose less and earn more this time around, they're not trying to push game development at all, and thanks to PR bullshit you are getting sucked into the hype of "next gen" 

So make yourselves a favor and buy the consoles to play games not argue about graphics, and if you REALLY REAAAAAAAAAALLYY want to have "Dem graphix" (not worth it since most games that are released by big studios suck to be honest) then just get yourself a PC and enjoy wasting your money on crap like Watch Dogs. 

Nope, I wont get Uncharted 4 like graphics on PC. No studio on the planet like Naughty Dog. 

The holy grail of graphics Crytek will be finished in a few months so what will PC gamers boast with next? Skyrim mods?

Naughty Dog is so overrated! Yeah sure their games are great, but people tend to overrate their quality, especially graphic wise. I just started playing the 1st uncharted this weekend (yeah, i have the trilogy at home and never bothered to try it before). Although the game is good, it's nowhere near the expectations I had cuz of you sony fanboys overrating everything ND does. Graphically it's a bit of a letdown to be honest.

 

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well...it seems like some genius play a 2007 title on 2014 and expect it to be graphic-wise revolutionary,

this is just as ridiculous as "i replay the FF VII on 2014,and its nothing as impressive as your FF fanboys claim to be"...

lol...