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IkePoR said:
Munkeh111 said:
While I'm happy that nobody is getting at Persona 4 Golden, I am shocked by this hatred for Final Fantasy X

It's simply the best game ever made! Moving story, fantastic battle system, fantastic post-game (especially now), fantastic levelling system and most of all, the incredible soundtrack!

I've just finished my 105 hour platinum, having already spent ~200 hours on the game on PS2, then PS3 via emulator.

The story to X has some of the biggest plot holes you can imagine. The story is crap - terrible writing and pacing.  The entire game's story wants to be about Tidus but is clearly about Yuna.  Rikku started the "playable for fan service only" trend in Final Fantasy.  She has zero impact on the story.  Did I mention the story is rubbish?

Are you seriously going to say the Sphere Grid is a good leveling system?  It's one of the worst in FF history, right behind FFXIII's.  It's overly complicated and time consuming beyond it's worth.  

To be fair the battle system gets credit, it is good.  Personally I don't remember a single track from X.  But everything else - annoying and unlikable characters, horrible character design and weapons, TIDUS and those fucking temples with the obnoxious, monotonous "puzzles" - is complete and total garbage.

Rikku has zero impact on the story? What about her relationship with Yuna vs the traditional Yevon hating the Al-Behd and the conflict that causes for Wakka. As well as feeding in to the hypocrasy of the church theme that the game is so fond of

I love the sphere grid. It's barely time consuming and I like to know what I'm getting when I level up. it makes each level feel more impactful when they're so discreet. I also love the way that it gives you guidance for each character's role and then the blank (and pointless) slate that is Kimhari. He has loads of different directions to go to, giving you a chance to change things up if you want. It also adds an extra dimension in that their paths only last so long. Before the end of the story, you should have been able to finish the paths of at least your favourite characters, then you get choices of what to give to them

The sphere grid and its customisable nature also tie into the fantastic party system. Too often in games you have party members who just sit on the sidelines doing nothing, because you don't like them at first, so they never get integrated into your party since they don't level. Whereas here, you have to play with all of them, but can phase them out as you focus on certain individuals and give them others' powers

The battle system is just fantastic, I love turn based RPGs, but the "length of attack" feature just adds an extra dimension and gives a much more tactical feel than anything closer to an active system like the older FF games used.

I honestly can't understand how you can remember any of the song. But I guess that's up to you

The puzzles were a bit weird, but better than just walking forever. You always need something to change up the pace

Okay, you don't like the character models, but that's really just a personal preference

 

Maybe it's because it was my first jRPG, but I really love this game. I mean really love this game. When I'm bored, i can just sit back and hum some of the songs and instantly feel a lot better just thinking about the game. There are "better" games, like the Last of Us, but to me this had something special that really clicked with me. I even liked Blitzball! (though maybe not all 30 hours I spent on it...)



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kupomogli said:

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This I 100% agree with you on, the gameplay is just way way too repetative and boring. I don't get why this is so popular.

I want to also add

Atelier - Great gameplay, but a dull plot
Dark Souls - Too hard, it's not fun to grind/backtrack. Had it been easier, I would have liked a fairly simple JRPG like this.



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Final Fantaxy VII and Xenoblade.



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Michael-5 said:

Dark Souls - Too hard, it's not fun to grind/backtrack. Had it been easier, I would have liked a fairly simple JRPG like this.

It's funny, sequence breaking is like cheating but in Dark Souls not only was it fun as hell, it made the game feel more fair.  Getting the Dragon Crest Shield and Elite Knight Set super early was so invigorating and gave you a good advantage for a good chunk of the game.

If you give it a second chance, sequence break.  It's awesome. :p



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Michael-5 said:
kupomogli said:

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This I 100% agree with you on, the gameplay is just way way too repetative and boring. I don't get why this is so popular.

I want to also add

Atelier - Great gameplay, but a dull plot
Dark Souls - Too hard, it's not fun to grind/backtrack. Had it been easier, I would have liked a fairly simple JRPG like this.

Hmm there is no need for grinding in Dark Souls just an FYI. It's difficulty is what makes you master enemies attacks, pay attention to every move, the environment and master the mechanics......Last thing it needs to to be yet another rpg players blast through like Bioware RPG's.



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Voiceofunreason said:
Michael-5 said:
kupomogli said:

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This I 100% agree with you on, the gameplay is just way way too repetative and boring. I don't get why this is so popular.

I want to also add

Atelier - Great gameplay, but a dull plot
Dark Souls - Too hard, it's not fun to grind/backtrack. Had it been easier, I would have liked a fairly simple JRPG like this.

Hmm there is no need for grinding in Dark Souls just an FYI. It's difficulty is what makes you master enemies attacks, pay attention to every move, the environment and master the mechanics......Last thing it needs to to be yet another rpg players blast through like Bioware RPG's.

I disagree, I like to play games casually, not all tensed up and in a panic. I got 20% through the game, and it's just annoying at how many times I die, and how I can loose everything if I don't recover my souls.



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I've never been huge into RPGs, but I'd say oblivion and the fallout series are overrated. I had a moderate amount of fun with them, but they didn't blow me away at all. Honestly, if it's made by Bethesda, I'm going to most likely think it's overrated. They have good concepts, but they make some of the buggiest games out there. I fully decided this when IGN didn't even downgrade skyrim's score for having near game breaking bugs. For me, their games are excellent to buy 2-3 years after they launch, but I'll never pay a full $60 for it. 



MohammadBadir said:
InnocentSin said:

I actually felt that way about FF13 since I absolutely loved 12.

Everybody felt that 13 dissapointed compared to the previous entires, but since that game is always ridiculed, it's not overrated.


Final fantasy 13 is overrated even after all of the ridicule.