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Arkaign said:
So are the people who always claimed ps4 was only selling more than xb1 due to price moving goalposts or have they accepted that xb1 is having more trouble than just price? Or will it take a brutal July NPD to convince them?

I think they quit, now the seem fixed on at least they will beat the wii u soon. But the reality is that they have been behind the wii u since before the pricut.



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BreedinBull said:
Arkaign said:
So are the people who always claimed ps4 was only selling more than xb1 due to price moving goalposts or have they accepted that xb1 is having more trouble than just price? Or will it take a brutal July NPD to convince them?

Nah, the goalposts are back at PS4 being in more countries now.


More countries sure will help those NPD numbers! :) GLOBALLY in the USA!!!! ROFL.



eva01beserk said:
Arkaign said:
So are the people who always claimed ps4 was only selling more than xb1 due to price moving goalposts or have they accepted that xb1 is having more trouble than just price? Or will it take a brutal July NPD to convince them?

I think they quit, now the seem fixed on at least they will beat the wii u soon. But the reality is that they have been behind the wii u since before the pricut.


I don't really see them on the topic neither.....



I wonder if, with the PS4, we're already seeing a bit of the Install base's size and rapid expansion working to help maintain its continuing growth. The Xbox 360 had a massive NPD win-streak, even after their non-Kinect exclusive titles dried up to consist of Halo, Forza, Fable and Gears, and in large part it was probably because their existing sales lead fed higher sales going forward; the idea that, especially in a social console with multiplayer, you are significantly more likely to make your first console purchase the same one your friends have. The more consoles you sell, and the more quickly you sell them, the more word-of-mouth you have from other gamers telling their friends 'You must geeeet one! WE MUST GAMEZ TOGETHERZ!" And word-of-mouth can be a VERY powerful force when it comes to advertising a new product.

The PS4 pretty much blew past the Xbox One, and the WiiU when you consider Nintendo's long head start. It may be that this sales momentum is beginning to feed itself, leading to a lot of consoles being purchased by the friends/relatives of existing owners. This means, theoretically, that the larger the sales lead grows over its individual competitors, the faster is will continue to sell compared to the Xbox One and WiiU. Especially when heavy hitters start coming out.

To be clear, this isn't intended to downplay the positive qualities of the PS4; it definitely has games I want to get my mitts on, no doubting. But compared to how 2015 and onwards is likely to go, the exclusive lineup IS likely going to seem a bit weak by comparison, as all first-year consoles go.

It might explain all of Microsoft's turnabouts; they don't want to risk letting Sony gain that kind of foothold, especially in the U.S., because they don't want to have to face the same difficulties catching up to the PS4 in their home territory that the PS3 had keeping up with the Xbox 360. Especially since, unlike the PS3, Microsoft will have no other strongholds to compensate for that loss.



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BreedinBull said:
Arkaign said:
So are the people who always claimed ps4 was only selling more than xb1 due to price moving goalposts or have they accepted that xb1 is having more trouble than just price? Or will it take a brutal July NPD to convince them?

Nah, the goalposts are back at PS4 being in more countries now.


Im curious to now what comes next after more countries



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 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

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i'm happy to see wii u finally reached decent numbers



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Meh week, except for PS4 HW and PSV SW, the only numbers up. 3DS HW and SW down is understandable, though, after the respective nice and huge boosts last week.



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BreedinBull said:
Arkaign said:
So are the people who always claimed ps4 was only selling more than xb1 due to price moving goalposts or have they accepted that xb1 is having more trouble than just price? Or will it take a brutal July NPD to convince them?

Nah, the goalposts are back at PS4 being in more countries now.

It boggles my mind how so many people still believe that. Utterly ridiculous.



Actually, I think the goalpost has now become marketshare comparisons.

To make it appear that, at least in total marketshare, the PS4 dominance seems to be going down month on month.

Basically: if you can't beat 'em, downplay how much they're beating you.