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Forums - Gaming Discussion - NONE of my friends own an 8th Gen System.

Not one.  Not a Wii U, a PS4 or an XBOne.  Not a single friend has one of these.  Many of my friends are gamers.  Most would fall into the Dude-Bro category, guys I play hockey with who play COD, GTA and NHL 20XX.  A few are more serious gamers like me.  Some have kids who are also into gaming.  But all are playing on a PS360 and I haven't heard one mention they want to get a U,4 or One.  They know about them, but don't care.  Yet, at least.

I thought of this because last gen friends were split between PS3 and XB360, and I was thinking it would be good to have everyone on the same system to play together.  I have a U, but I doubt many will pick one up - though interest has really spiked with MK8.

I think this really says a lot about where we stand with this gen.  The mass market hasn't jumped on board yet, at all.  Talk of PS4 dominating is silly.  Talk of Wii U's dreadful sales in 2013 is irrelevant.  Even talk of a doomed XBOne premature.  That's not to say that the early PS4 momentum isn't important - getting back to my friends, if the early adopters are picking up PS4's that could swing the whole group.  But we don't know what's ahead.  COD's pre-orders are down.  AC's pre-orders are down.  We don't know what titles and system will capture the imagination of the mass market, and none of either have done that yet.



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Go get new friends.



Lucky person!!!!!



PS4 is selling around the same rate as the fastest selling consoles of all time and is keeping up solidly even in the doldrum months. It seems fairly clear how this gen is going to go plus or minus 10-15%. It's a mistake to look only at your group as an example of everybody. Multiplat titles are already selling more on ps4 than 360, that tells us a LOT.



xKakashi209x said:
Go get new friends.


Au contraire I think their decision is rather smart, a lot of the big releases are coming out in 2015 (or beyond) and there might be a price drop or a certain bundle in the future. I don't think there is much reason to jump in right now.



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Are your friends students or do they work?

Also, you can talk about CoD and AC preorders being down but Destiny is picking up the slack.

One more thing - the mainstream audience not having jumped in does not mean that the PS4 isn't dominating.



Arkaign said:
PS4 is selling around the same rate as the fastest selling consoles of all time and is keeping up solidly even in the doldrum months. It seems fairly clear how this gen is going to go plus or minus 10-15%. It's a mistake to look only at your group as an example of everybody. Multiplat titles are already selling more on ps4 than 360, that tells us a LOT.


I'm saying the same thing by months. It looks like record pacing sales are considered flop nowadays. PS4 was tracking ahead of the Wii with the bonus that it will have legs and won't die in 4 years.



About 21 million 8th gen systems have been sold. Looking only at PS360, there are over 160 million of those. That means that only about 13% have upgraded, or less than 87% haven't. My friends are in the vast majority. In fact, I guess I'm the one who bought in and am that 10% of early buyers.

No one is saying the PS4 is doing bad. Some people are so sensitive.

At the same time, the PS4 commands about 40%+ of the market both to date and on a weekly basis presently. I would call that a solid lead but not dominating. In this industry I'd want to see at least 50% market share before I declare dominance.

But the larger point is that 21 million systems is still irrelevant when looking at the larger market. We have already seen a good e3 and MK8 shift interest and buying of Wii U by 50% or more. If One drops the price, does some crazy marketing or has an amazing new title come out, it's not a stretch to say it could go from worst to first very rapidly and eventually have a majority of the potential 85% of the market that is left to buy.



I've convinced my friend to buy a Wii U mainly if not only for the screen to be next to his computer when he is playing league. He does enjoy it and think the most important part of the console is co-op.

But in all honesty I think the mass market hasn't jumped on board yet because of the similarity's of last gen doesn't interest most to spend hundreds of bucks. I mean one of the most common points of why the wii u was/is failing sales wise is because of the dumb name. Same with xbox, but PS4 has a different spin because every playstation sells well when it is not demanding something unreasonable (599 U.S dollars). The PS4 does not necessarily have to appeal to the mass market as it has it's fans to back it up.



Consoles: 3DS, Wii U, and Vita soon. Super Paper Mario fan.

A lot of 7th gen sales were replacement consoles to replace out of warranty rrod, ylod, and a sizable number of ps3s were also sold as defacto bluray players. The fact that ps4 multiplats outsell ps360 multiplats already is a pretty big sign of where we're at and where we're headed. Looking at the 2014-2015 release schedules it would take an act of God to derail the immediate future for the next 18 months or so. And by that point you're talking massive install base gaps that tend yo snowball a bit due to the 'friend/family' effect being statistically significant as an advantage. Hell, with more multiplats selling for ps4 than two 7g versions already, one can tell that the diehard gamers ARE in fact moving from the 7g already, those are the gamers who buy at least 1-2 games a month and are most critical for success/profit/social media boost. More casual gamers buy 1 game every few months, typically don't buy until a system is $299 or less, and are far less likely to pay for online or network with friends regarding gaming on social media or in person.