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S.T.A.G.E. said:


You make zero sense. One point is no reason to discount a game unless bias is weighing it down. I'm done with you.


If I make zero sense, that means EdHieron original point makes zero sense as well, which is something we both agree on.

 

So you're basically pointing out that EdHieron bias makes his point invalid, which is something I agree with too.



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Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


You make zero sense. One point is no reason to discount a game unless bias is weighing it down. I'm done with you.


If I make zero sense, that means EdHieron original point makes zero sense as well, which is something we both agree on.

 

So you're basically pointing out that EdHieron bias makes his point invalid, which is something I agree with too.


The point Ed made was that no major exclusive MS has had surpassed a group of Sony's top tier franchises highest metacores (even though they most likely did in sales). You used a third party game as a rebuttal when he was talking about exclusives Sony makes scores vs games that MS pays for outside of Halo. When it comes down to it, its always Halo and Gears. I would beg to differ with him though because Halo: Combat Evolved was the highest rated Xbox game ever made sitting at a 97 metascore. That is a proper rebuttal. 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
EspadaGrim said:

IMO I believe that ScaleBound could reach 1 million LT on Xbox One, although a lot depends on MS Marketing and the appeal of the game still have to wait on actual gameplay though.


I think it will sell well but it wont really get anywhere near to the mark of Halo or Gears. I can't wait for it because I love Platinums Hack N Slash games. The biggest problem with them is that most of their games don't really make complete sense to a western audience or have a coherent story.

Never said it will reach Halo or Gears levels of sales, As for the story part Joe Staten is the creative and Narrative lead for Scalebound and Crackdown so i believe that it's in good hands.



S.T.A.G.E. said:


Ignorance is bliss. Sony had the most high rated exclusives last gen.

Rated? Rating? Double U TF is that?

If you're into interactive movies games, oh well!!



S.T.A.G.E. said:


The point Ed made was that no major exclusive MS has had surpassed a group of Sony's top tier franchises highest metacores (even though they most likely did in sales). You used a third party game as a rebuttal when he was talking about exclusives Sony makes scores vs games that MS pays for outside of Halo. When it comes down to it, its always Halo and Gears. I would beg to differ with him though because Halo: Combat Evolved was the highest rated Xbox game ever made sitting at a 97 metascore. That is a proper rebuttal. 


This makes no sense. If you're going to use Ed's point again, which basically means not calling a game masterpiece because there's other games with higher metascore, we're back at point zero. Sure, the game he used was a Microsoft exclusive versus a bunch of Sony exclusives, but the point that I highlighted is the key. So there shouldn't be problem if I bring a multiplatform game into the mix.

 

The Last of Us isn't a masterpiece because it has less metascore than Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. That goes along with Ed's reasoning. If you don't agree with this, then Ed's reasoning crumble down. And so, you have no need for using Ed's point again.

 

And yet, the last lines of Ed's reasoning (using two specific journalists to highlight again the first point I made) obviously tell how he is deliberately manipulating information for his sake and the sake of his argument.

 

So unless you want to use such point of view, I suggest you drop it now. If you do want to use it, however, I also suggest that you don't twist Ed's point into your favor (much like he did) and carry on with everything.

 

If you don't agree that The Last of Us can't be considered a masterpiece because Metal Gear Solid 2 has more metacritic, then leave it there.



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Goatseye said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
 


Ignorance is bliss. Sony had the most high rated exclusives last gen.

Rated? Rating? Double U TF is that?

If you're into interactive movies games, oh well!!


Interactive movies...lol...I see you've been ignoring the way videogames have been going since the 90's. Videogames are slowly closing the production gap with movies, especially since Sony hit the gaming industry and they make movies themselves. I mean its not like Halo didn't learn a lesson about the importance of cinematics, quicktimes and scripts. Halo 4 devs have finally grasped the artistic concept of a story and cinematic relation to full-on gameplay which Sony has known for years.



People please calm down this thread has become nothing more than another battleground for stupid console war arguments.



Wright said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


The point Ed made was that no major exclusive MS has had surpassed a group of Sony's top tier franchises highest metacores (even though they most likely did in sales). You used a third party game as a rebuttal when he was talking about exclusives Sony makes scores vs games that MS pays for outside of Halo. When it comes down to it, its always Halo and Gears. I would beg to differ with him though because Halo: Combat Evolved was the highest rated Xbox game ever made sitting at a 97 metascore. That is a proper rebuttal. 


This makes no sense. If you're going to use Ed's point again, which basically means not calling a game masterpiece because there's other games with higher metascore, we're back at point zero. Sure, the game he used was a Microsoft exclusive versus a bunch of Sony exclusives, but the point that I highlighted is the key. So there shouldn't be problem if I bring a multiplatform game into the mix.

 

The Last of Us isn't a masterpiece because it has less metascore than Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. That goes along with Ed's reasoning. If you don't agree with this, then Ed's reasoning crumble down. And so, you have no need for using Ed's point again.

 

And yet, the last lines of Ed's reasoning (using two specific journalists to highlight again the first point I made) obviously tell how he is deliberately manipulating information for his sake and the sake of his argument.

 

So unless you want to use such point of view, I suggest you drop it now. If you do want to use it, however, I also suggest that you don't twist Ed's point into your favor (much like he did) and carry on with everything.

 

If you don't agree that The Last of Us can't be considered a masterpiece because Metal Gear Solid 2 has more metacritic, then leave it there.


I went back to what Ed told you when I wrote a response. I mean I could give you the quote of what he said to you. I pretty much ignored it, and was more focused on responding to you. Comparing the last of us to MGS is no indicator of how bad or good TLOU is. Anything above 90 is amazing.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Anything above 90 is amazing.


So you're not agreeing with Ed's point.



S.T.A.G.E. said:


Interactive movies...lol...I see you've been ignoring the way videogames have been going since the 90's. Videogames are slowly closing the production gap with movies, especially since Sony hit the gaming industry and they make movies themselves. I mean its not like Halo didn't learn a lesson about the importance of cinematics, quicktimes and scripts. Halo 4 is finally understood everything Sony has known for years.

Sony didn't release nothing highly well produced in terms of audio and visual like Halo CE until 2007 with Uncharted.