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Wii U beating Xbox One even after price drop! What happened to the 360 fans?

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They er, went from 360 to Wii U /PS4/ both.



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If that's the case, what happened to the Wii fans? Xbox One is 1 year behind Wii U and less than 2 million behind. I think it goes both ways.



FIT_Gamer said:
They still make COD on last gen.


This.

I'm sure microsoft still got a lot of core fans, despite the kinect bundle, DRM, lack of 360 exclusives etc. Problem is the users that are gonna shell out $399 for a slightly better version Watchdogs or Destiny- essentially the early adopters shaping the competition at the moment- are the informed gamers who have been paying attention for the last fews year and have been turned off by MS. The casual lot whom Microsoft probably still have power with aren't gonna be paying XO/PS4 much attention until they're beloved franchises go next gen only(AC, Halo, COD), or the different between cross gen is night and day, or until next gen gets the big next thing (Evolve, witcher 3 etc)



How is the WiiU beating the Xbox One? Xbox One has consistently outsold the WiiU weekly since its launch.



tuscaniman99 said:
How is the WiiU beating the Xbox One? Xbox One has consistently outsold the WiiU weekly since its launch.



I think he is only talking about the current numbers. But other than that the XB1 has beat the Wii U every week except for 1.



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They're buying PS4s or not buying anything at all. I don't think there's much of any overlap between the XBox and Nintendo audiences.



There were no huge loyalty.. Price was the determining factor to why the 360 won in the US. All the people who bought a new system just to play gta or cod had an easy choice with that price difference.



Snoorlax said:

Of course not.

Microsoft did some things right with the original Xbox mostly Halo and online.

Then they improved with the 360 with it's comfortable controller, better online play, Gears of War, Forza and more Halo. Xbox Live was greedy imo but i guess that and RROD never seemed to bother 360 fanboys since they would just buy another Xbox and pay to play online.

Microsoft screwed up after it's DRM and always Kinect policies. Imagine if Sony came up with those policies you still think PS4 would be selling twice as much as Xbone?

I think a lot of the time, we think that the internet=real life but it just isn't true. The average Joe who made the PS4 what it is right now doesn't know anything about what happened last year with the DRM mess. They just bought what their friends say to buy etc. 

This is why the 360 was king in the US. It was the "it" console. Now the "it" console is PS4.



jlmurph2 said:
If that's the case, what happened to the Wii fans? Xbox One is 1 year behind Wii U and less than 2 million behind. I think it goes both ways.

They went to tablets and phones.



Well like some have said, US userbase is the most disloyal group. Even with the almost 200m PS2 sold WW, new generation of gamers did not have the same level of loyalty to the system. 360 was first to the market and was leaps and bounds better in tech than PS2, PS3 would be a year off at at an unheard of price point. Those who early adopt usually set the trend for the rest of the generation. After the first year you got a 360 because thats what all your friends already had, even if you grew up on PS. It took Sony years to repair that damage.

Basically you can't be both...
-Last to the Party
-Highest price point.

...and still expect everyone to flock to you. PS3 only survived partially due to brand recognition, and later could stand on it's own merit. US cares more about getting the cheapest alternative to the best tech. PS3 was more powerful but more costly. It wasn't until later that the truth about the 360 being "cheaper" really came to light. Once it did we started to see the change.

Sony said all the right things at a time when Microsoft did the exact opposite. PS4's price was right AND it has the superior hardware. Not to mention a much more tenured pedigree in the business, Sony pretty much had this generation on lock. Sure, MS has rectified many of gamer's squabbles but now what saved them in 360 era will be their undoing.
- Most already have PS4.....so all their Monkey See Monkey Do friends will follow suit.Like the 360, PS4 is easier to develop for and has the market's full attention so every developer wants to align themselves with them.
-Also MS's moneyhatting tactic is failing them as now they are being asked to pay outrageous sums because its no longer a no brainer to align with xbox, its a detriment, just as it was for PS3 early on.
- Even if they can wrangle an exclusive this way, it will be timed and the market has caught on to this. Exclusive COD Ghost content didn't stop PS4 version outselling XBO 2:1. And everyone here pretty much knows Titanfall is coming to PS4 at some point, with the developers not even fully committing to the idea they were exclusive in the first place.

There would need to be something drastic to change the market from where it is heading now. XBO would need to be $100 less than PS4 and stop losing games to PS4 appeal to many as a smart buy.

Its a snowball effect, which all started at one point. MS's DRM policy. They thought no one would notice or care. They had reason to believe so, because people still have no clue how they are being raped by Facebook,Google and Apple and their Data Farming. But via a few correctly timed "rumors", the spotlight was shined on this fact and there was nowhere for MS to run. They tried evading the questions but that made it worse. Its just been one bad news after another ever since.



      

      

      

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