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DerNebel on 22 July 2014
LipeJJ said:
DerNebel said:
LipeJJ said:


Bloodborne is a niche game like Xenoblade Chronicles X will be. Plus, Wii U will have Splatoon, a multiplayer focused shooter made by one of their best teams, that can be big. Like you said, The Order won't be any big, just think of how much hype infamous SS had and how that turned out to sell (1.4M currently). And this kind of game that sells 1-2M the Wii U will be filled with next year: Yoshi's Woolly World, Xenoblade, Kirby,  Mario Maker, Some amiibo games, etc.

 

And there's still Zelda.

So basically what you're saying is all of Sonys games aside from UC won't be big but Splatoon might be because, shooter? And you're just ignoring all the third party games coming to PS4 but not Wii U like the Witcher, Batman and maybe the Division? That is even ignoring unannounced games on PS4 like the GG or MM new IP of which I'm honestly pretty sure that at least one will see the light of day in 2015.

What I'm trying to say is that the Wii U has by no stretch of the imagination easily the best lineup of 2015.

 

No, I expressed myself badly, what I meant to say it that Wii U has easily the best exclusive line up of 2015. I'm not counting third party games that can be played on other consoles (and most cases, on PC for cheaper). Wii U has the bigger number of exclusives, as well as the bigger number of AAA exclusives for 2015. It's not and opinion, it's a fact.

If you don't like them, or something, it's another story. And please, don't include unannounced games because everyone have them.

Unannounced games you mean like "some Amiibo games"...?

Also I think it's pretty damn important to include multiplats if said multiplats will all not appear on Wii U.

And even on exclusives it is certainly not a fact that the Wii U has the bigger lineup. With Bloodborne, The Order, R&C Reimagining, Rime, Everybody's gone to the Rapture, Abzu, No Man's Sky, probably Deep Down in there as well and Uncharted 4 only being the ones announced so far the PS4 has a huge 2015 lineup and is absolutely not standing below Nintendos.



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DerNebel on 22 July 2014
PigPen said:
DerNebel said:
20-25million, said that in the beginning and still stand by that.


That's unrealistic to me.  You're entitled to your opinion and that's fine.  Nintendo will sell 75-80 million consoles this generation, but then you will say that's unrealistic.  I'm on a roll so far predicting the Wii U is moving on up.  Here is another prediction, the holidays is Nintendo(s).

No offense but you predicted MK8 selling 3.5 million copies in its first week, that's certainly not being on a roll. Wii U selling 75-80 million consoles is equally impossible. And regarding your holiday prediction I'll happily bet you on that unless you mean Wii U+3DS, the Wii U on its own doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning this holiday season.



mii-gamer on 22 July 2014

I am just going to tag this :)



SubiyaCryolite on 22 July 2014

18 million (like sig). The system will get boosts here and there but I just don't see it having the momentum or the lifespan to cross it. If it does I'll happily admit to being wrong.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

LipeJJ on 22 July 2014
DerNebel said:
LipeJJ said:
DerNebel said:
LipeJJ said:


Bloodborne is a niche game like Xenoblade Chronicles X will be. Plus, Wii U will have Splatoon, a multiplayer focused shooter made by one of their best teams, that can be big. Like you said, The Order won't be any big, just think of how much hype infamous SS had and how that turned out to sell (1.4M currently). And this kind of game that sells 1-2M the Wii U will be filled with next year: Yoshi's Woolly World, Xenoblade, Kirby,  Mario Maker, Some amiibo games, etc.

 

And there's still Zelda.

So basically what you're saying is all of Sonys games aside from UC won't be big but Splatoon might be because, shooter? And you're just ignoring all the third party games coming to PS4 but not Wii U like the Witcher, Batman and maybe the Division? That is even ignoring unannounced games on PS4 like the GG or MM new IP of which I'm honestly pretty sure that at least one will see the light of day in 2015.

What I'm trying to say is that the Wii U has by no stretch of the imagination easily the best lineup of 2015.

 

No, I expressed myself badly, what I meant to say it that Wii U has easily the best exclusive line up of 2015. I'm not counting third party games that can be played on other consoles (and most cases, on PC for cheaper). Wii U has the bigger number of exclusives, as well as the bigger number of AAA exclusives for 2015. It's not and opinion, it's a fact.

If you don't like them, or something, it's another story. And please, don't include unannounced games because everyone have them.

Unannounced games you mean like "some Amiibo games"...?

Also I think it's pretty damn important to include multiplats if said multiplats will all not appear on Wii U.

And even on exclusives it is certainly not a fact that the Wii U has the bigger lineup. With Bloodborne, The Order, R&C Reimagining, Rime, Everybody's gone to the Rapture, Abzu, No Man's Sky, probably Deep Down in there as well and Uncharted 4 only being the ones announced so far the PS4 has a huge 2015 lineup and is absolutely not standing below Nintendos.


Are you seriously counting with indie games? .-.

 

Also, I forgot to mention the new Star Fox, Devil's Third and Fatal Frame.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

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DerNebel on 22 July 2014
LipeJJ said:
DerNebel said:

Unannounced games you mean like "some Amiibo games"...?

Also I think it's pretty damn important to include multiplats if said multiplats will all not appear on Wii U.

And even on exclusives it is certainly not a fact that the Wii U has the bigger lineup. With Bloodborne, The Order, R&C Reimagining, Rime, Everybody's gone to the Rapture, Abzu, No Man's Sky, probably Deep Down in there as well and Uncharted 4 only being the ones announced so far the PS4 has a huge 2015 lineup and is absolutely not standing below Nintendos.


Are you seriously counting with indie games? .-.

 

Also, I forgot to mention the new Star Fox, Devil's Third and Fatal Frame.

Are you seriously counting completely niche games like Fatal Frame or Devil's Third? Trust me, a game like No Man's Sky is worth a ton more to the PS4 then a Devil's Third, Fatal Frame or "some Amiibo games" are to the Wii U.



LipeJJ on 22 July 2014
DerNebel said:
LipeJJ said:
DerNebel said:

Unannounced games you mean like "some Amiibo games"...?

Also I think it's pretty damn important to include multiplats if said multiplats will all not appear on Wii U.

And even on exclusives it is certainly not a fact that the Wii U has the bigger lineup. With Bloodborne, The Order, R&C Reimagining, Rime, Everybody's gone to the Rapture, Abzu, No Man's Sky, probably Deep Down in there as well and Uncharted 4 only being the ones announced so far the PS4 has a huge 2015 lineup and is absolutely not standing below Nintendos.


Are you seriously counting with indie games? .-.

 

Also, I forgot to mention the new Star Fox, Devil's Third and Fatal Frame.

Are you seriously counting completely niche games like Fatal Frame or Devil's Third? Trust me, a game like No Man's Sky is worth a ton more to the PS4 then a Devil's Third, Fatal Frame or "some Amiibo games" are to the Wii U.

So, you're saying that an indie game will do more for a established console than exclusive retail titles published by Nintendo? I agree that Devil's Third can be a flop, but that's because the game looks outdated and unappealing, but the others... hell, no.

 

Plus, Amiibo is sure to be a hit (just look at skylanders and disney infinity) the games that will utilize it will be normal games, but with that function, like Smash Bros.



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

DerNebel on 22 July 2014
LipeJJ said:
DerNebel said:

Are you seriously counting completely niche games like Fatal Frame or Devil's Third? Trust me, a game like No Man's Sky is worth a ton more to the PS4 then a Devil's Third, Fatal Frame or "some Amiibo games" are to the Wii U.

So, you're saying that an indie game will do more for a established console than exclusive retail titles published by Nintendo? I agree that Devil's Third can be a flop, but that's because the game looks outdated and unappealing, but the others... hell, no.

 

Plus, Amiibo is sure to be a hit (just look at skylanders and disney infinity) the games that will utilize it will be normal games, but with that function, like Smash Bros.

Um yeah, I'm saying that. No Man's Sky for example is creating a lot more interest than most of those Wii U games you listed, a game like Yoshi's Wooly World or Kirby and the Rainbow Curse or Devil's Third or Fatal Frame will do virtually nothing for the Wii U, those titles are filler material.

And Amiibo is not sure to be a hit, because as of now there is no software that really screams "you need an Amiibo", that is the reason Skylanders and Disney Infinity are successful, you have those games that really compliment those figures, where is that for Amiibo? Sure you can pit your Amiibo NPCs against each other in Smash Bros, but seriously who even cares for that, especially among the audience that made Skylanders and Disney Infinity big: Kids. Right now there is not a single game out there that we know uses Amiibos in a way that sounds like it could capture the Skylanders or Disney Infinity crowd.



LipeJJ on 22 July 2014
DerNebel said:
LipeJJ said:
DerNebel said:

Are you seriously counting completely niche games like Fatal Frame or Devil's Third? Trust me, a game like No Man's Sky is worth a ton more to the PS4 then a Devil's Third, Fatal Frame or "some Amiibo games" are to the Wii U.

So, you're saying that an indie game will do more for a established console than exclusive retail titles published by Nintendo? I agree that Devil's Third can be a flop, but that's because the game looks outdated and unappealing, but the others... hell, no.

 

Plus, Amiibo is sure to be a hit (just look at skylanders and disney infinity) the games that will utilize it will be normal games, but with that function, like Smash Bros.

Um yeah, I'm saying that. No Man's Sky for example is creating a lot more interest than most of those Wii U games you listed, a game like Yoshi's Wooly World or Kirby and the Rainbow Curse or Devil's Third or Fatal Frame will do virtually nothing for the Wii U, those titles are filler material.

And Amiibo is not sure to be a hit, because as of now there is no software that really screams "you need an Amiibo", that is the reason Skylanders and Disney Infinity are successful, you have those games that really compliment those figures, where is that for Amiibo? Sure you can pit your Amiibo NPCs against each other in Smash Bros, but seriously who even cares for that, especially among the audience that made Skylanders and Disney Infinity big: Kids. Right now there is not a single game out there that we know uses Amiibos in a way that sounds like it could capture the Skylanders or Disney Infinity crowd.

Well, I think now it's clear that we have different visions, so I'll stop the discussion right here and let the time tell which line-up will end up being more effective to each console. You are polite and know how to argue, so thanks for the healthy discussion. ^^



Bet with Teeqoz for 2 weeks of avatar and sig control that Super Mario Odyssey would ship more than 7m on its first 2 months. The game shipped 9.07m, so I won

Soundwave on 22 July 2014

Is Disney Infinity really that big of a hit? I actually thought I read that Disney was kinda underwhelmed with the initial sales.