Forums - Gaming Discussion - Consoles would benefit at running games 720p instead of 1080p.

Infamous Second Son is an amazing looking game that runs at 1080p@30+fps, but sooner than later, we're going to hit a wall, and it almost seems like we already have where PC games look better  than their console counterpart with all the graphical effects added running at the exact same resolution.  

But the thing is, why should consoles run at 1080p with barely any increase in clarity compared to 720p, when they could run it at 720p and basically double the amount of power that they can push towards graphics?  Whether you are running the game at 480p, 720p, or 1080p, the resolution increase is going ito be nothing compared to the graphic effect increase they can put into the game.  Or run the games at 720p@60fps and still have the extra power to push better graphical effects from the games.

This way the PS4 and Xbox One can stay comparable to the PC graphically, even if resolution and maybe framerate can't compete. 

With console games, resolution is hardly a difference.  With all resolutions on consoles, it's the exact same image with more pixels put into detailing that image.  So you get an image with less jaggies and a bit more clarity.  With PCs some games have that same resolution change, but PCs also have games that at a lower resolution the image viewed may have the exact same res as a higher resolution image.  The difference with the higher resolution on those games is that you have more screen space. 

Here's two images of FF13, one taken at 480p, the other at 720p.  Because my current motherboard is too small to hold my capture card I used a passthrough device which adds AA, so there's a bit more blur than there would be on your tv but also less jaggies.  These images were full resolution, but also photobucket downscaled the image resolution when uploading.  Going from 480p to 720p is more noticeable than going from 720p to 1080p, and it's still hardly a difference.  

It's not like devs can't increase the quality of the graphics ever so higher.  You think real life would look worse than a video game if it was a 480p image?  What do you think you're been viewing on your old SD televisions?  480i and those graphics look better than anything I've seen on a video game.



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That's "hardly a difference"? It's like night and day.
Am I going to need to start a "1080p club" or something?

Raziel123 said:
That's "hardly a difference"? It's like night and day.
Am I going to need to start a "1080p club" or something?

You need to build a 1080p club. And then use it. Often.



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It was bad enough putting up with it on the PS3, but i could accept it as a necessary compromise for hardware designed 200 years before my birth. If 720p became the standard for the PS4/X1 as well... i think i'd throw my PS4 in a grinder.

FF13 at 480p? Does that mean that Wii could run FF13?



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Raziel123 said:
That's "hardly a difference"? It's like night and day.
Am I going to need to start a "1080p club" or something?

That's not night and day.  It's hardly a difference.  Is it noticeable?  Yeah.  But it's also not the difference between 480p and 720p, not 1080p which would be noticeable but even less so. 

Graphical enhances would be far more noticeable than the slight blur due to resolution changes.  Here's an example I made at the end, this time with images.  Graphics on the second picture are much better(the graphics look so real :P.)  The point is, all the power wasted on increasing the games res could be pushed towards higher quality graphics and would make a far greater difference than some ever so slight blur

It'd actually put PS4 and Xbox One games in the same league graphically as the same PC games, where PC owners would get the edge on being able to play these games with slightly better clarity because of the resolution bump.  As it is now, we'll be having PS4 and Xbox One games with 1080p resolution, but graphics that aren't on par with those on the PC because of all the effects that the PCs have on top of the resolution increase.



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NeoRatt said:
Sony is now renaming the PlayStation to the RePlayStation...

You can replay PC Indie or PS3 games on it!
Wright said:

FF13 at 480p? Does that mean that Wii could run FF13?


yes



Or, you know, use it to run at a better frame rate.

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spemanig said:
Or, you know, use it to run at a better frame rate.

tl;dr?  I mention that in there.



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Sony is now renaming the PlayStation to the RePlayStation...

You can replay PC Indie or PS3 games on it!
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Lower resolution would only have a very minor benefit in frame rate
30fps games would still be 30fps games
last gen stuck at 720p was enough. Consoles need to keep up with the times. Bad enough that Wii U doesn't do it. Let PS4 champion it.