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MohammadBadir said:

I don't give a crap about "included DLC" or "higher resolution". You released a game 1 year ago, I'm not gonna buy it again for almost full price. The people who wanna buy it and go on ahead, I'm not going to support these 1 year old "remasters".

and you aren't expected to "buy it again", this is mainly for people who didn't pick it up before and some big fans that want to experience it again with the best possible quality



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enrageorange said:
DrDoomz said:

To think that something is "priced badly" one must have a wealth of examples of similar products that are of better value. Can you provide such product offerings?

Don't be silly. A bad price isn't an objective quantity. It is an opinion that an individual makes based on their circumstances.

And if you want some examples of remastered products that were more fairly priced at release date.

Kindom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix
Kindom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix
God of War Collection
God of War Origins: Collection
Ratchet and Clank: Collection
Halo: Master Chief Collection
Halo Anniversary
Fable Anniversary
Ico and Shadow of Collosus Collection

I'm sure if I really start digging into remade titles I could find a couple dozen others. Let's just say the norm isn't 1 remastered title for $50. Infact the only other remastered game I can think of that costs that much is Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD and Grand Theft Auto 5. But that doesn't even really matter. Even if the game was $40, I would think its a bad value. Just like I think most of the above collections are a bad value as well.

Actually, a bad price is a very objective quality. At least that's what business school plus a dozen odd years in corporate has taught me. A bad price (in this instance anyway) would be one that is positioned is such a way where it is beyond the generally percieved value of the product towards its target market or one that is positioned above the accepted market-defined pricing for similar such products.

You must mean "priced badly TO ME...", in which case, yes that would be VERY subjective. But then again, the fact that you see similar products as bad values anyway kind of shows what your general opinion of it all. Which brings us back to what I posted earlier:

Those that just want to hate on the game/PS4, no price is cheap enough.



blightedpersona said:
as a PC gamer, paying $50 for a >1 year old game is unheard of

PC gamer paying for a game ? unheard of

 

/jk



Carl2291 said:


To anyone wondering, this post is better than this one, because spemanig is actually explaining his opinion.

Anyway, lets look closer.

Standalone, TLOU is retailing for ~$30. Right. The Left Behind DLC is going for ~$15, the Abandoned Territories DLC is going for ~$10. With those 2 DLC items alone, we are up to ~$55. The Grounded bundle has stupid prices, so I wont list that. Even then though, you can get everything in the Season Pass for ~$20.

So standalone with Season Pass bring it to a round ~$50. This doesnt take into account the dev time to get it up and running on PS4 and to improve pretty much everything about the game. They are basically doing the upgrades for free with a retail price of ~$50, that will likely come down to $40 in very little time.

I fail to see how it is a ripoff. Adding ~$20 worth of Season Pass DLC and upgrading everything isnt worth an extra ~$20? How?


Because the value of DLC goes down, just like the value of a game does. The season pass was available at launch if I am correct. I'm not going to try and act like I know how quickly the value of DLC drops, but even though Sony themselves don't drop the price, those are definitely not worth $20 now. They're worth much less, and if we followed the same 50% drop of the actual retail title, they'd be worth $10 now. That adds to $40.

I explained to someone else why I don't feel that the graphical and framerate upgrades don't add value to TLOU:R, but since your response was so respectful, I'll elaborate.

TLOU, as a year old game, hasn't aged enough to warrent being more expensive for the remastered price. In a generational interlude where there are regularly next gen and last gen versions of games releasing simultaniously for the same price, it just doesn't make sense that TLOU:R gets to cost what is essentially $10 extra because it was released a year late. I gave this example before:

"If the original TLOU was released at the PS4's launch, they'd both be sold for $60 with no DLC. The same price. One superior and one inferior, but sold for the same value. Just like with XBO and Titanfall. (Just like with Destiny one the PS4/PS3/XBO/360. etc.) Then the DLC would come out. Jump to right now, they'd do the same thing, call it TLOU: GOTY Edition, and sell it for $40 with all the DLC included, because THAT'S what it's worth."

They wouldn't add an extra price for the extra work of making the PS4 version look superior. It would just be expected to look that way. There'd be no less effort and no less costs put into making it possible, but it would be sold for what it's worth, $40, otherwise people just wouldn't buy it.



Yeah, I think its fine that its $50, I just don't see why I should care about it. If you have a PS4 and haven't played the original, then yeah sure, buy it, but I think the amount of hype (or perhaps the amount of anti counter-hype) is a little much.



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prayformojo said:

It should be a free download for PS3 owners who bought it full price and $40.00 for everyone else. BTW? THIS is why you PS4 owners don't get BC. They knew you'd all double dip over the course of the next few years....and you are.


Umm.... BC dosent get me this game any cheaper.... game plus all dlc is more than what they are charging. Plus BC dosent get me next gen graphics... Im fine if they do this with every PS3 game, as long as they dont hault current game productions to do so. Not sure how so.e dont see the value here. And if BC is so important keep your ps3....



I don't think the $50 price is the main issue, the main issue is not offering a discount to those who already own the PS3 version. Offering it digitally for $35 for old PS3 users would be completely acceptable, especially considering that the remaster didn't cost much to produce at all. Not doing this is kinda sad.



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Think it's too much? Don't buy it. Problem solved.



DrDoomz said:
enrageorange said:
DrDoomz said:

To think that something is "priced badly" one must have a wealth of examples of similar products that are of better value. Can you provide such product offerings?

Don't be silly. A bad price isn't an objective quantity. It is an opinion that an individual makes based on their circumstances.

And if you want some examples of remastered products that were more fairly priced at release date.

Kindom Hearts HD 1.5 Remix
Kindom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix
God of War Collection
God of War Origins: Collection
Ratchet and Clank: Collection
Halo: Master Chief Collection
Halo Anniversary
Fable Anniversary
Ico and Shadow of Collosus Collection

I'm sure if I really start digging into remade titles I could find a couple dozen others. Let's just say the norm isn't 1 remastered title for $50. Infact the only other remastered game I can think of that costs that much is Legend of Zelda Wind Waker HD and Grand Theft Auto 5. But that doesn't even really matter. Even if the game was $40, I would think its a bad value. Just like I think most of the above collections are a bad value as well.

Actually, a bad price is a very objective quality. At least that's what business school plus a dozen odd years in corporate has taught me. A bad price (in this instance anyway) would be one that is positioned is such a way where it is beyond the generally percieved value of the product towards its target market or one that is positioned above the accepted market-defined pricing for similar such products.

You must mean "a priced badly TO ME...", in which case, yes that would be VERY subjective. But then again, the fact that you see similar products as bad values anyway kind of shows that your general opinion of it all. Which brings us back to what I posted earlier:

Those that just want to hate on the game/PS4, no price is cheap enough.

I like what you did there. Talk about how my opinion is completely wrong. Ignore the fact that I listed a dozen games that show the Last of Us is a badly priced by your own criteria. And then try and the change the issue to one about people hating the game and the ps4? Do you happen to be a politician?

 




mornelithe said:
Think it's too much? Don't buy it. Problem solved.


Don't worry. Those who are complaining about the price never intended to buy it.