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Seriously?

I just assumed 10 12.99%
 
I saw another guy say tha... 2 2.60%
 
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I was aware Xbox fans knew about Europe/Japan 37 48.05%
 
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sales2099 on 18 July 2014
Dgc1808 said:
"Know thy enemy."

What the fuck? I know it's called a console war but we're not fighting. We're not enemies. SONY, Microsoft and Nintendo are dukin' it out... not us.

You never wanted to duke it out West Side Story style???????



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Raziel123 on 18 July 2014
sales2099 said:

360 #3 now, in 2014 after gen 8 launched. Which i said previously.When gen 7 was the most current and relevant, I enjoyed a steady 2nd. I'm cool. You apparantly, are taking me back to debates I had 4 years ago lol. Move on......your #1 now. Geez.


That's a lot of spin. Post November 2013 doesn't matter but the 10M 360s before PS3 matter huh. Right. How many handicaps does the Xbox need to look good? How many goal posts? You enjoyed #3, good for you. Means you are prepared to endure this gen too.



KLXVER on 18 July 2014
sales2099 said:

360 #3 now, in 2014 after gen 8 launched. Which i said previously.When gen 7 was the most current and relevant, I enjoyed a steady 2nd. I'm cool. You apparantly, are taking me back to debates I had 4 years ago lol. Move on......your #1 now. Geez.


Seems to me like the 7th gen is still relevant. I mean most games these days seems to be coming out for the 360 and PS3 as well...



Neodegenerate on 18 July 2014
Augen said:
I just do not see Microsoft willing to lose money heavily this generation to subsidize and create a playing field where they could be first. They seem perfectly content to turn a profit and finish second.


This.  And so long as they put out great games while doing so, everyone wins.



sales2099 on 18 July 2014
BMaker11 said:
sales2099 said:

Know thy enemy. I'd really like to know where you guys stand, and even fellow Xbox fans for that matter.

To me anyway, the main perception mistake is this:

Selling better = 1st Place

This means things "that can save us" like the removing of controversal polocies, Xbox 1 Games for Gold, removing Gold paywall for apps, Titanfall, removing kinect/$399 price drop. And now in the future people seem to think that the tier 2 countries, China launch head start, Sunset Overdrive and Halo MCC will magically shoot us to the top.

Look, we aren't blind to geographical sales data. We didn't get a head start launch like last gen. Mainland Europe and Japan aren't going to win this for us. China is a wild card that will likely not amount to much. Hell we will be lucky to eventually take NA. Exclusives give boosts but tend not to last as they have to be consistent throughout the year to have lasting results.

What we DO want, is X1 to be a better version of itself. And we are getting that. Polocies we didn't like are gone, we now have free games for Gold, we are getting more indie games, Kinect is an option, and we have a surprising amount of AAA variety that isn't available on our competition. And now Xbox Entertainment is closed, something I personally never cared for (aside from the Halo projects) since they had zero benefit to the gamer. What the issue is, is that PS fans believe that X1's recent sales boosts and changes will skyrocket it to 1st place....at least they think that we believe that. We do not. We haven't even taken 2nd yet, geez ;).

Selling better /= 1st place. I get it. Some people here felt the last place sting in the 7th gen and want to secure their position once again. You have it. You can brag and gloat, as is tradition in the console war, but at least be educated enough that we realize we aren't going to overtake you guys this gen. X1 being a comfortable 2nd, being successful enough to continue a sustainable business is what we want.

So yes, the $399 SKU, tier 2 counties launch, Halo MCC, and Sunset Overdrive will "save" Xbox One.....from its 2013 self, not for what PS fans seem to think.

Bro, what forum have you been reading? Did you see that "XBone sales doubled" thread? PS fans were saying the price cut didn't do anything (comparing to April as opposed to May since that was  a price cut hold off month). I've said that Titanfall didn't do anything because on a weekly average, March NPD was lower than February (March was 5 weeks, February was 4). And apparently Xbox fans "don't want to rent. they want to own" so XBone GwG can't be seen as a boost.

Is this a stealth troll? (If I get banned for that, I will come back more powerful than you can ever imagine). I have seen exactly 0 PS fans say that XBone's "recent boosts" will help it take 1st place (or at least, PS fans saying Xbox fans believe this)....because there haven't been any real boosts. So how can you even make that generalization? Even in the NPD thread, before June NPD was released, every PS fan was saying "VGC overtracks X1, undertracks PS4, so with VGC having PS4 ahead for June already, the gap is going to be even greater". How does that translate to: "PS fans think X1 will take 1st"?

edit: Only thing I've seen is that "Xbone will take NA" thread from TheDrill that keeps getting bumped. But that's for shits and giggles because of how epically wrong it is

Finally someone who talks sense ;)



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sales2099 on 18 July 2014
KLXVER said:
sales2099 said:

360 #3 now, in 2014 after gen 8 launched. Which i said previously.When gen 7 was the most current and relevant, I enjoyed a steady 2nd. I'm cool. You apparantly, are taking me back to debates I had 4 years ago lol. Move on......your #1 now. Geez.


Seems to me like the 7th gen is still relevant. I mean most games these days seems to be coming out for the 360 and PS3 as well...

Well it certainly isn't the most current or as relevant as gen 8. I'll be the 1st to say that gen 7 now is just sloppy seconds for 3rd parties to squeeze more sales out of their games.



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KLXVER on 18 July 2014
sales2099 said:

Well it certainly isn't the most current or as relevant as gen 8. I'll be the 1st to say that gen 7 now is just sloppy seconds for 3rd parties to squeeze more sales out of their games.


Thats true.



Scarphish on 18 July 2014

Playstation fans think x1 can take 1st, but only globally in the us.



KLXVER on 18 July 2014
Scarphish said:
Playstation fans think x1 can take 1st, but only globally in the us.


....the what now?



Serious_frusting on 18 July 2014

I dont understand what you are asking or who the question is aimed at. The answers to the question also dont seem to make much sense. With that being said I will just answer with the obligatory YES!!!



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