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Sharu said:
SvennoJ said:

 

Idk, but when I was a kid I received a Soviet kid's journal called 'Technika-molodezhi' (can be translated "Tech for the teens", it was AMAZING).

And I remember an article with a satellite photo of a man lying on a grass, and on the photo the time on his clock was clearly seen. And it was unclassifeied inmformation 25 years ago, so I think this kind of tech advances very much.

Also - this is an example of photo from Google. I think American military have something better in their sleeves!

Google uses aerial photography. The possibility of secret spy sattelites is there ofcourse, not so secret if you announce you can see beer bottles lying around while saying you still have to launch a satellite that can resolve up to 25cm.

http://investor.digitalglobe.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=70788&p=RssLanding&cat=news&id=1939027
I doubt that picture 25 years ago was really from a satellite, probably a prediction of what might be possible.

Still even a spy satellite (KH-12) can't see beer bottles. And it would have to be at the right place at the right time, those low orbit things can't hover.
Weird story.



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SvennoJ said:
Sharu said:
SvennoJ said:
 

 

Idk, but when I was a kid I received a Soviet kid's journal called 'Technika-molodezhi' (can be translated "Tech for the teens", it was AMAZING).

And I remember an article with a satellite photo of a man lying on a grass, and on the photo the time on his clock was clearly seen. And it was unclassifeied inmformation 25 years ago, so I think this kind of tech advances very much.

Also - this is an example of photo from Google. I think American military have something better in their sleeves!

Google uses aerial photography. The possibility of secret spy sattelites is there ofcourse, not so secret if you announce you can see beer bottles lying around while saying you still have to launch a satellite that can resolve up to 25cm.

http://investor.digitalglobe.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=70788&p=RssLanding&cat=news&id=1939027
I doubt that picture 25 years ago was really from a satellite, probably a prediction of what might be possible.

Still even a spy satellite (KH-12) can't see beer bottles. And it would have to be at the right place at the right time, those low orbit things can't hover.
Weird story.

If you'll watch the video or Russian Mynistry of Defence briefing, you'll see, that on its information USA satellity WAS in a correct place at a time of launch and it should have necessary photos. And Russian generals ASK Washington to show us those photos of launch at last...



^This is indeed an aerial photo. Not being expert on the sattelitel imagnery, smth up to 20cm I guess is possible after multiple passes and image enhance filtering, i.e. stationary objects only.

At the same time in the briefing it was clearly stated that "according to our data US sattelite was passing over South-East region of Ukraine from 5:06PM to 5:21PM Msk on July 17th". Reminder: MH17 hit the ground at 5:20PM Msk.



spurgeonryan said:
What is this I am hearing about wikipedia being changed about this crash?

Yeah, and its terrible since obviously Wikipedia is a main source of information about jet fighters for Pentagon...



spurgeonryan said:
What is this I am hearing about wikipedia being changed about this crash?

Bwa-ha-ha, what is the most amusing part is 'infrowar blasts' from over here are heard on another part of the world even though in different cirmustances they'd never go across the border. I'd assume not without help of UkrProgress on Twitter or whatever the group is beign supervised by the DoS?

Yeah, I heard smth about Wiki being edited on that occasion, both groups used this fact to their advantage. I suggest to ignore, this is white noise.



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US State Department "Confident" MH17 "Mistakenly" Downed By Separatists, Finds No Direct Link To Russia

They're backpedaling. Otherwise they'd accuse Russia and rest assured there'd be now "mistakenly". Again no data revealed, just statements.



mai said:

US State Department "Confident" MH17 "Mistakenly" Downed By Separatists, Finds No Direct Link To Russia

They're backpedaling. Otherwise they'd accuse Russia and rest assured there'd be now "mistakenly". Again no data revealed, just statements.

Interesting. After it will be common knowledge that Boeing was shot down by Ukraine jet, will any Western media bring full first page with the official excuses? Like, say "Mr. Putin, you didn't shoot the plane, and we are f...ng dickheads!!!"

(Who I'm trying to fool...)





DoS briefeing. What intel data? No, social media!

She's seriously referring to that tape uploaded to YT by SBU :D Even if we forget how "reliable" SBU was in the past, you need to invest like 10-15 min to check the audio in any editor to see this is a badly made montage.



mai said:

DoS briefeing. What intel data? No, social media!

She's seriously referring to that tape uploaded to YT by SBU :D Even if we forget how "reliable" SBU was in the past, you need to invest like 10-15 min to check the audio in any editor to see this is a badly made montage.

This is very strange! My hobby is music, I'm quite good in home recording and often speak with a high level sound engeneers on forums. And I can tell you that level of audio editing/music studios in Ukraine is very good, on some positions better than Russian. 
So to see this badly made fake make me think that any self-respecting sound engineers just reject working on this shit, leaving it to SBU 'experts'.