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That's why in the future Nintendo won't have two relatively new systems at the same time. They're gonna focus on one system only. Whether it's home console, handheld or the hybrid of two, it will be one system. Mark my words.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
KungKras said:
Of course....... just like the DS was the Wii's worst enemy!

It all makes sense and stuff!

Graphs don't lie.

While the DS complemented the Wii.

The 3DS offers a similar but cheaper experience to that of the Wii U.

Your graphs doesn't prove anything -_-

If they 3DS hurt the Wii U, then Wii U would go down when 3DS went up and vice versa. But they both seem to follow the same trends. So what's the point of this thread again?



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The Wii U is Wii U's worst enemy.



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i agree. i made a thread saying the same thing about a year ago.



From what I can tell here in Argentina (i.e doesn't reflect a damn thing) the 3ds is the cheaper version against the wii u (which is the same price as PS4 here, and that is around 800~1000 dollars).So, as having two home consoles are expensive as hell, it is better to have a home console + handheld.

And 3ds helps to fix that nintendo games need, while having an XBOX/PS3-4 helps you to have the third party games fix.

So yeah, maybe 3DS is hurting WiiU after all, altough I don't think its its worst enemy.



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KungKras said:

Your graphs doesn't prove anything -_-

If they 3DS hurt the Wii U, then Wii U would go down when 3DS went up and vice versa. But they both seem to follow the same trends. So what's the point of this thread again?

You could say they follow the same trends, but then you don't seem to truly understand, so I've included the 360 to make it more obvious.

The trends that the Wii U and 3DS followed, that you suggested the 3DS was helping the Wii U are the holiday seasons, the defacto best time for console sales. Or would you suggest that the 3DS helped the Xbox 360 sales as well?

In fact, if the 3DS was helping the Wii U, the Wii U should have exceeded it seeing as A. the 3DS had already peaked and B. the Wii U started in the holidays not to mention C. its second holiday did much worse.

The 360 and 3DS sales in the holiday seasons almost match, an obvious example of how they didn't really compete against each other. At the same time, the Wii U being much lower during those periods suggest that they are competing, against both the 3DS and the 360.

And sure, you could suggest that all the consoles on the market are the Wii U's worst enemy. But the 3DS is the only other console on the market getting Active Development and Platform support from Nintendo. So unlike those other platforms, barring the Wii since it about to be discontinued/already has been in some places, the 3DS harms it by competiting with it both on the commercial front and inside Nintendo's.

As for all the Allegations that Wii U is its own worst enemy, that doesn't make any sense. Not only is the Nintendo responsible for the dearth of games and system sellers on the Wii U, they put them on the 3DS to add insult to injury, price cuts have not helped, games have not helped, even if you suggest it was the Wii U tablet that rose the price, its Nintendo who made its development integral, and now not having a Wii U tablet in many games makes players miss out on some crucial features.

Nintendo has obviously fucked the Wii U, but as long as they continue to support the 3DS over it, it doesn't even have a ghost of a chance of pulling any reasonable sales.

And that blue circle is Mario Kart 8.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
KungKras said:

Your graphs doesn't prove anything -_-

If they 3DS hurt the Wii U, then Wii U would go down when 3DS went up and vice versa. But they both seem to follow the same trends. So what's the point of this thread again?

You could say they follow the same trends, but then you don't seem to truly understand, so I've included the 360 to make it more obvious.

The trends that the Wii U and 3DS followed, that you suggested the 3DS was helping the Wii U are the holiday seasons, the defacto best time for console sales. Or would you suggest that the 3DS helped the Xbox 360 sales as well?

In fact, if the 3DS was helping the Wii U, the Wii U should have exceeded it seeing as A. the 3DS had already peaked and B. the Wii U started in the holidays not to mention C. its second holiday did much worse.

The 360 and 3DS sales in the holiday seasons almost match, an obvious example of how they didn't really compete against each other. At the same time, the Wii U being much lower during those periods suggest that they are competing, against both the 3DS and the 360.

And sure, you could suggest that all the consoles on the market are the Wii U's worst enemy. But the 3DS is the only other console on the market getting Active Development and Platform support from Nintendo. So unlike those other platforms, barring the Wii since it about to be discontinued/already has been in some places, the 3DS harms it by competiting with it both on the commercial front and inside Nintendo's.

As for all the Allegations that Wii U is its own worst enemy, that doesn't make any sense. Not only is the Nintendo responsible for the dearth of games and system sellers on the Wii U, they put them on the 3DS to add insult to injury, price cuts have not helped, games have not helped, even if you suggest it was the Wii U tablet that rose the price, its Nintendo who made its development integral, and now not having a Wii U tablet in many games makes players miss out on some crucial features.

Nintendo has obviously fucked the Wii U, but as long as they continue to support the 3DS over it, it doesn't even have a ghost of a chance of pulling any reasonable sales.

And that blue circle is Mario Kart 8.

What is this nonsense? Why should the handheld help the home console? Are you smoking something?

These graphs clearly show that there is no cannibalization between the two systems. What is your point?



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I don't think the Wii U would sell any better or worse if there was or wasn't any 3DS. I do think if there was no 3DS, then the Vita might be doing a little better, but not by much.



The problem is that the 3DS offers a cheap alternative to the Wii U.
Their games are too similar, so people get a 3DS to scratch their Nintendo itch and ignore Wii U.



curl-6 said:
The problem is that the 3DS offers a cheap alternative to the Wii U.
Their games are too similar, so people get a 3DS to scratch their Nintendo itch and ignore Wii U.

If that is the case, then why isn't the market data supporting it?

Noone can point to any cannibalization between the handhelds and consoles. You people are just applying pseudo-reasoning while ignoring data.



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