What would have happened if the original Sonic was never released

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NiKKoM on 14 July 2014

Michael Jackson's Moonwalker would have reigned supreme as THE Megadrive/Genesis game

and the battle would have been MJ vs Mario

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ExplodingBlock on 14 July 2014

kupomogli said:

If Sonic was never created we'd have one less crappy series in the industry. Sonic probably didn't even sell many consoles. Sega CD and 32X were addons but Sonic didn't help them sell consoles. Dreamcast was killed off early and the Sega Saturn sold less than 10m despite having a Sonic 3D Blast remake, Sonic R, and a collection of the Genesis Sonic games. Sega didn't need Sonic for the SMS. The SMS had Sonic, but it was a cross gen title. The Genesis probably would have still been just as successful without Sonic

Sonic is Sega

The genesis would have bombed without Sonic

Nintendo was hogging the third parties to themselves back then and Sega had no mascot

Of course the Saturn bombed, it doesn't matter if "Sonic" is in the title Sonic R and 3D Blast were just horrible

Also the dreamcast died because of the PS2

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NES would probably last until '96 since there was no competition

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jigokutamago on 14 July 2014

NiKKoM said:

Michael Jackson's Moonwalker would have reigned supreme as THE Megadrive/Genesis game

and the battle would have been MJ vs Mario

Dammit, we missed out on a lot!

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MikeRox on 15 July 2014

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Miguel_Zorro said:

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Miguel_Zorro said:
I think Nintendo still would have snubbed the third parties. Developers were fed up by the time the N64 came along. If Sony hadn't created a console, somebody else would have.

Apple, Panasonic and Atari did. They all failed.

As did NEC during the 16-bit gen.

Sony had a perfect storm, much like the arab conquests during the 7th century. It was unlikely to happen, but everything got timed right and the opposition made critical mistakes all at the most critical times.

Nintendo losting the top spot was not an inevitable outcome.

I didn't say anything about Nintendo losing the top spot. The start of the thread says "Any of the competition's consoles such as Microsoft's Xbox would bomb since Nintendo having all the third party games+ Nintendo exclusives". Apple, Panasonic and Atari all tried and "failed" before Nintendo alienated third parties.

With or without Sony, another console would have entered the marketplace and Nintendo would have lost some third party support, because if you read the history from the time, third parties were upset with Nintendo. There was a gap in the market because Nintendo was charging excessive fees, forcing cartridges, not communicating with third parties, and making many other mistakes. Without Sony, it would have been somebody else - Electronic Arts, Konami, whoever. Whether that means Nintendo would have lost the top spot is a separate discussion.

Nintendo pissed off a lot of businessmen during the NES days. Didn't hurt the SNES.

And that was when NEC released the PC engine, which had many qualities that the PS1 had.

PC Engine was an 8 bit console that was card based. Do you mean the much later PC Engine CD add on and Duo?

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Miguel_Zorro said:

You keep mentioning events that happened before CDs became mainstream, or situations that were completely different. The PC Engine (The Turbografx-16 outside of Japan) was completely different than the PS1. I was there. I had the Turbografx-16. I encourage you to read in depth about the history of the N64 and the video game market at that time.

I have probably read more about that period of gaming than you have. I've also read enough to not buy into all established dogma about that period.

Turbografx was easy to program and had a cheap storage medium, IE, it was very similar to the PS1. The biggest difference was the Nintendo and Sega didn't make any big mistakes back then.

Fast forward and you had a Saturn that was built to be an expensive 2D machine without a Sonic game, and a Nintendo that only wanted an elite "Dream Team" of companies to develop for them. Plus a Sony that despite the industry initially being suspicious of them, pushed hard and managed to get many lucky victories.

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