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amak11 said:
Well duh, Nintendo games pretty much balance the industry..... I have been saying this for years. Nintendo is the anchor that keeps gaming as we know it fun, instead of serious and shades of brown

Oh, god ... why does someone have to do this when we get a positive article?  Every single time, it has to turn into a talking point for someone's battle agenda.  Just ... wow.



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Aielyn said:

... yes, I'm sure that the 4 vs 4 shooter game Splatoon is just a copy of single-player adventure title The Unfinished Swan because... reasons. Probably the fact (I assume) that both involve paint. I'm surprised that you didn't accuse it of being a copy of de Blob... oh, wait, that was on a Nintendo platform, so you can't acknowledge that game, right?

And yes, motion controls are still being used. They're not being used quite as much, but that's because motion controls aren't great for every genre, and a lot of gamers who grew up with dual analog have trouble letting go and moving to the obviously-superior Wiimote style controls.

You want some more examples? How about Mario Galaxy with its rather unique platforming style? How about NSMB Wii with its interactions between players in a cooperative platformer? How about Smash Bros (which inspired PSABR)?

How about some of the other hardware innovations - analog sticks (as opposed to joysticks), shoulder buttons, rumble, console-handheld connectivity, 3d screen on a handheld, touchscreen controls, wireless controllers...

I can keep going, if you want.


The idea is still similar. And last I checked, de Blob didn't have shooting mechanics, did it?

Motion controls are still being used? In fitness games no doubt.

Mario Galaxy and its unique platforming style? What was unique about it? Spherical platforming? Looks like Nintendo took a clue from R&C.

Smash Bros? Inspired by Outfoxies - that's well known.

Analog stick - Atari 5200.

I'll give you shoulder button and rumble.

Fairly sure console handheld connectivity would be the pocketstation.

3D would be the Tomytronic 3D.

Touchscreen would be the game.com.

Wireless controllers would be the CX-42 for the Atari 2600.

Yes, please keep going because you've offered very, very few valid examples so far.



I just think of what will happen to the other consoles (especially Xbox) if/when the military and army phase of games die out. (yes I know it won't happen for a while probably)



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Furthermore, I think innovation is underrated. People like to say oh the industry needs "innovation to thrive" but that's a naive way of looking at it.

In reality, innovation is the stuff that gives us things like the Virtual Boy. Motion controls weren't new in the Wii, they were just intuitive to use and made gaming easier to access. Something touch devices are doing now.

I agree, but the reality is that are no real innovations in consumer products like consoles. The innovations were done before at the time they reach consumer level.



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Play4Fun said:
Even in this thread, people are arguing console war bullshit and of course it's spearheaded by Lawlight.


Console wars keep VGC going strong and mods busy. 



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daredevil.shark said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Funny how Sony's president of Worldwide Studios has 200% more Wii U's then most Nintendo Fans.

EDIT: Mistakes were made, post preserved for lulz.


Ha ha ha. True. Many Nintendo fans dont own a wii u yet.

LOL, you did realize the math was wrong and then made wrong math yourself. Hilarious.

(Don't be angry at me, it is just funny and everyone can be wrong in the maths from time to time. I'm too. If it is funny I hope I can laugh about it myself.)



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pokoko said:
amak11 said:
Well duh, Nintendo games pretty much balance the industry..... I have been saying this for years. Nintendo is the anchor that keeps gaming as we know it fun, instead of serious and shades of brown

Oh, god ... why does someone have to do this when we get a positive article?  Every single time, it has to turn into a talking point for someone's battle agenda.  Just ... wow.

Nah, it's just a message i've been saying for years and I get called a Nintendo fanboy for saying despite not having any ties to one console. Hardly a battle agenda, but you're welcome to think that, 



RenCutypoison said:
padib said:
Hopefully this will convince Sonyites of what I have always said, that Nintendo offers something that is different from what the other two consoles are focused on.

And that's why they have a very important role to play in the industry.

Luckily they will believe it when a Sony rep says it because they certainly don't when I say it.


Because all sony consoles have is military shooters. There is not a big emphasis on driving simulation and RPGs.

Also, that statement in 2014, when so much indies come out for people sick of miltary shooters

What the fuck...Oh that's sarcasm.

I was about to list the 6 iterations of Gran Turismo and well a shit load of RPGs.



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Aielyn said:
Lawlight said:
aLkaLiNE said:
Between Sony and MS, only one is needed (although I am a fanboy, I won't pick sides here). Nintendo on the other hand, as Yoshida said is a necessary component within the industry to help drive innovation.

What innovation by Nintendo? Care to give some examples?

Splatoon, for one - this is the one that Yoshida specifically mentioned.

The Wii's motion controls were enough of an innovation to drive the system's sales for three solid years, while both Sony and MS were forced to respond with Move and Kinect, respectively.

If you'd like, I can continue.

Offering balance =/= innovation. It just means it's something different from the direction of the industry.



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amak11 said:
pokoko said:
amak11 said:
Well duh, Nintendo games pretty much balance the industry..... I have been saying this for years. Nintendo is the anchor that keeps gaming as we know it fun, instead of serious and shades of brown

Oh, god ... why does someone have to do this when we get a positive article?  Every single time, it has to turn into a talking point for someone's battle agenda.  Just ... wow.

Nah, it's just a message i've been saying for years and I get called a Nintendo fanboy for saying despite not having any ties to one console. Hardly a battle agenda, but you're welcome to think that, 

Well, since you don't seem to understand that fun is subjective and you made some very silly and massive generalizations, what real choice do I have?  Either you're trying to champion one brand or you really believe that all non-Nintendo games are serious, brown, and not fun.  This is actually one of the rare instances where the former would cast the more favorable impression.  Simply by glancing at my game-shelf, without looking online or considering my digital library, I see games like Little Big Planet, Ratchet & Clank, Valkyria Chronicles, Folklore, 3D Dot Game Heros, Portal 2, Disgaea, and Borderlands--and you're seriously trying to say that only Nintendo provides fun, humor, and color?

That's the epitome of ridiculous.