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padib said:

I think what Shuhei is trying to say is that the xbox is a bit of a me-too product while Nintendo's home consoles always play their own tune and don't follow the whims of the industry.

Not only does that make the most sense, but he'd also be mostly right.

Sure, the PS and XB have their own differentiating offerings (LBP, 3D Dot game heroes, Sunset Overdrive, etc.), but these are minority in comparison to the regular offerings on both consoles (COD, Gears, LoU, AC, WD, Battlefield, Titanfall).

Of course, both are me-too consoles to each other, depending on who's on top, so this isn't necessarily a bash at Xbox in my book, but I do think that that's what Shuhei meant.

He doesn't even mention Xbox though.



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bluetoad said:
I think sony and nintendo should get together to make a awesome cd based console!

Hmm... I wonder why does that sound so familiar to me...



                
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padib said:

I think what Shuhei is trying to say is that the xbox is a bit of a me-too product while Nintendo's home consoles always play their own tune and don't follow the whims of the industry.

Not only does that make the most sense, but he'd also be mostly right.

Sure, the PS and XB have their own differentiating offerings (LBP, 3D Dot game heroes, Sunset Overdrive, etc.), but these are minority in comparison to the regular offerings on both consoles (COD, Gears, LoU, AC, WD, Battlefield, Titanfall).

Of course, both are me-too consoles to each other, depending on who's on top, so this isn't necessarily a bash at Xbox in my book, but I do think that that's what Shuhei meant.

Halo is a me too title? To what game(s)?

What about Gears? What titles offered the same gameplay before it dropped in the market?

Xbox been having XBLA since '04 and Nintendo is just getting up to the game now, "me tooing".

Do you know what is me too? PS All Stars, LBP Karting, Bloodborne, etc...



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I love the relationship between the two firms and I hope they'll get to cooperate on a next-gen handheld.. One should offer hardware and the other provides Software.



Yoshida is a total bro and I agree wholeheartedly. I may not be the biggest nintendo fan but they do offer more variety than ever with our CoD obsession.

Now, lets continue with the discussion on why MS is ruining everything (just kidding)



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padib said:

When Halo first came out it was a me-too product to games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark. Nowadays most games are me-too to Halo (Gears), which then get me-too games (Killzone, Resistance). It's a cycle of me-too, with whoever calling the other me-too not being the one stating.

Nintendo has had the Wii shop since release btw.

None of those are military shooters and the only thing they have in common is the camera view.

Wii shop was nothing but shovelware.



Goatseye said:
padib said:

I think what Shuhei is trying to say is that the xbox is a bit of a me-too product while Nintendo's home consoles always play their own tune and don't follow the whims of the industry.

Not only does that make the most sense, but he'd also be mostly right.

Sure, the PS and XB have their own differentiating offerings (LBP, 3D Dot game heroes, Sunset Overdrive, etc.), but these are minority in comparison to the regular offerings on both consoles (COD, Gears, LoU, AC, WD, Battlefield, Titanfall).

Of course, both are me-too consoles to each other, depending on who's on top, so this isn't necessarily a bash at Xbox in my book, but I do think that that's what Shuhei meant.

Halo is a me too title? To what game(s)?

What about Gears? What titles offered the same gameplay before it dropped in the market?

Xbox been having XBLA since '04 and Nintendo is just getting up to the game now, "me tooing".

Do you know what is me too? PS All Stars, LBP Karting, Bloodborne, etc...



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padib said:

HAHA!! Exactly. I couldn't care less that PS has me-too games for Nintendo or Xbox 1st party IPs, because they are just a very small part of their offerings. Games like Infamous, Killzone, Resistance, and then 3rd parties like AC, WD, GTA are much more important to Sony, as is evidenced by the sales and related marketing.

But you care about Xbox that has no me too, which  are a big part of their offerings.

Plus, if FPS genre is oversaturated, what to say about Platformer & RPG? They're bloated?



padib said:
Goatseye said:

But you care about Xbox that has no me too, which  are a big part of their offerings.

Plus, if FPS genre is oversaturated, what to say about Platformer & RPG? They're bloated?

They sure are bloated. Nintendo has an overabundance of Platformers. It doesn't change the fact however that shooters are the main focus of the industry right now (as was also well mentioned by Henry that today's industry is the one created by Sony). So a me-too console is a console that sells on the same strengths as another.

Here, MS and Sony are called twins because they compete very closely on very similar offerings. Nintendo is not in that game.

Today's industry created by Sony?

Today's industry was created by 2K,EA,Ubisoft and other 3rd party.

10 years ago the industry was very different from what it is today. We went from having platformer abundance to realistic action games led by those 3rd party giants.



padib said:
Goatseye said:

But you care about Xbox that has no me too, which  are a big part of their offerings.

Plus, if FPS genre is oversaturated, what to say about Platformer & RPG? They're bloated?

They sure are bloated. Nintendo has an overabundance of Platformers. It doesn't change the fact however that shooters are the main focus of the industry right now (as was also well mentioned by Henry that today's industry is the one created by Sony). So a me-too console is a console that sells on the same strengths as another.

Here, MS and Sony are called twins because they compete very closely on very similar offerings. Nintendo is not in that game.


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