They'd be more likely to be Welsh ;)

I think the main thing a lot of people from the US find difficult to picture, is that the entire British Isles, is about the size of a US state. There also seems to be very little knowledge of "England" outside of London. I'm from Yorkshire, all I get asked when I'm visiting family in the US from strangers is "are you Scottish"? Our accent and culture is closer to Scotlands than the South of England's so Scotland isn't actually as "out of place" being in the UK as it may seem if you only know the traditional English/Scottish stereotypes.

For the most part, the only time I see/hear an true "English" sounding person, is hollywood movies.

It's similar with Ireland, we have such similar cultures that it would be a more logical argument to break the US up into separate countries than it does to make the British Isles separate again. There are much bigger cultural divisions between different states there. You'll actually find that the majority of people here do consider themselves "British" rather than English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish.

Personally I am Yorkshire, English, British and European. I have no problem with any of them and don't see why it has to be "one of the other".

I'm afraid your perception is not borne out by the evidence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/british.shtml

"People from a variety of cultures across Great Britain were asked "What is Britishness?" in a survey for the Commission for Racial Equality.  Blacks and asians living in England saw themselves as the most British, whereas white residents said they were English first and foremost.  And people of all backgrounds living in Scotland and Wales identified themselves as Scottish and Welsh, rather than British."

This is from 8 years ago.  I suspect the numbers have only become more pronounced as we get closer to the vote.

Fair enough though you can get survey that say anything all the time, but my passport says British. Therefore that is what I am :p

The Better Together campaign evidence concludes Scottish will be better off in the Union with figures to support it. The Independence campaign evidence concludes Scottish will be better off independent with figures to support it.

85.75% of statistics are made up. Every poll yeilds a different result.

@Bolded - As you see it, exactly. To others, it's a different tale. You really think that Ireland's moved on? That's like saying African Americans have stopped talking about slavery. It doesn't die off that easy. I appreciate your optimism, but you really should talk to some Irish folk from actual Ireland. Perspecitve is a crazy thing. Sure, the co-share has subdued the amount of bombs going off, but I don't believe for a second that everything is a-ok. Hell, I know some older British folk that are still bitter about the American Revolutionary War.  =)

And they'd be just as over entitled as people talking about slavery from generations ago (it wasn't exclusive to one race the second you leave the US).

As they say about Gay Marriage. Get over it (and there is a lot more validity for older people to be bitter about that right now). Bitterness is a really ugly human race. However, who are these older British folk? I can't say I've ever met any, and I've met plenty of older homophobes, sexists and racists in my line of work.

If that's really true then it should be a piece of cake for you to find a survey that contradicts the one I linked. :)

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with identifying as British, and I was a little suprised at the poll results too.  I fully expected that Scots and Welsh would more closely identify with their country of origin, but I also expected the English to identify as British (the English hegemony has meant that Englishness and Britishness are pretty interchangeable) so it was something of a suprise to me to find them calling themselves English first, British second.

Whether Scotland votes for independance or not I don't believe we'll see a fundamental change in our relationship with the rest of the UK.  While we might all be proud of our roots we also have a long and proud shared history too.

I polled myself and found that 100% of the respondents identified themself as British :D

Fair enough, I'm really disappointed in my fellow countrymen is all I can say.

I'm English but i think they should vote for independence. Anything to get away from this shitty government who barely represent anyone in the south yet alone the Scots.

I'm also very interested to see what happens if they get independence and what everyone will say, especially all those on the fear filled 'no' side. I'm pretty sure Scotland won't stop trading with us if independent and the like but they need to decide things for themselves. This wouldn't of happened if the UK had greater federalism i don't think

I'm doing a thread revival as it's only a week until the vote and the media won't shut up about it. Just wondering on people's views, if anyone's mind has been changed. Or if you are Scottish how we as a community could help you decide which way to vote.

As a southern British person, I personally don't mind what the Scottish do but there are some odd things about the vote that I find weird, like the Scottish people currently not living there are not allowed to vote.

I'm English and hope the useless scots piss off and they can take all the scots in Westminster with them like Cameron the useless scot bastard PM.

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