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Rab said:

If this had happened to any other system imagine the unhappyness

Anyway customers are not wrong to complain about a bait & switch, about something they were promised but didn't get

The Publisher handled this bit of PR terribly, and are fully to blame for missleading their customers, defending this behaviour is beyond belief 


That would be evil if they did it to any other system!!!! *outraged*



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Rab said:
KLXVER said:
Some people are way too accepting about this kind of behaviour from developers. Publishers and developers must be having a great time now, going "I cant believe some gamers actually tolerate our BS.lol"


If this had happened to any other system imagine the unhappyness

Anyway customers are not wrong to complain about a bait & switch, about something they were promised but didn't get

The Publisher handled this bit of PR terribly, and are fully to blame for missleading their customers 


True. Its sad to see some people blaming the gamers for this. No wonder developers and publishers take advantage of gamers, they cant even stand together when their fellow gamers are getting screwed. The more important thing for them is "I chose the right system to play my games on and you chose the wrong one. Not my problem"



kivi95 said:
Rab said:
Pristine20 said:

wii U version becomes the worst one by default.


No, unless your very narrow minded and just looked a graphics (All though the Wii U version will look stunning by all accounts), there has always been the gamepad which the other versions don't have, people are looking for different things, Wii U owners particularly, even ones with a gaming PC 

Why would someone play a SIM racer with a controller? Racing Wheel is a must with sim racers.

Yeah everyone getting this game on all systems has a wheel

People make choices 

The ones that wanted the Wii U (which appears to be a lot) have a gyro controlled wheel thats included with every game, not to mention touch control interface on every controller by default

 

 



Pristine20 said:
The poll suggests that the Wii U is the most anticipated? Surely you realize that the internet is not the best representative for "anticipation" and especially "sales" right? I personally don't remember any realistic racers on WIi and if they exist, they certainly had no impact. Blue ocean is a risk that may or may not work when introducing a product to brand new potential consumers but at this stage in the game, I think it's safe to say the 8th gen has a negligible amount of such consumers.

In that regard, I can argue that most people who've invested in the 8th gen know what they're getting into with each company. Thus racing sim enthusiasts are not going to be prioritising the Wii U. PC is the best choice for this game by far. It's seems more of a case of a few people have invested in the wii U and now want ports instead of buying another console but one has to wonder that if such people had enough spare moneyt to crowd  fund games, they can afford a high end PC for the best version or at least PS4/X1s for what would surely be better versions of the game.

Your drought analogy is terrible because we're talking about an essential human need compared to plain old entertainment and somehow I doubt that apples would be a priority for people actually facing a drought. Drinking water would probably come first, then staple carbs/protein sources before stuff like apples.

The poll does suggest that the Wii U is the most anticipated. Why? Because people not-on-the-internet don't know about the game yet. Note that I said anticipation, not sales, so I don't know why you mentioned sales. But here's the key - the more avid the fan, the more they'll talk up the game to others, which drives interest without need for advertising. If Wii U Project Cars fans on the internet were so avid as to have such an impact on the polls, to be so vocal now, etc, then imagine what happens when they tell all of their friends about what happened... and they're not going to tell their friends "these guys screwed Wii U over, so go and buy the game on another system".

And the point about the blue ocean is that it's not just something to do with "casuals". It's about selling to people who haven't been catered to before. And it's not entirely about current Wii U owners; it's also about future Wii U owners. And if Project Cars had been THE racing sim of the Wii U, then all the people who bought a Wii U with the game become fans specifically of that series, and when Project Cars 2 comes along, they buy that, too. It's a lot harder on a system with more competition because you have to outdo them, do so in a way that captures a lot of fans, and then manage to remain ahead of the competition with future releases.

As for the drought analogy, I think you need to learn what an analogy is, because it's not meant to capture every facet perfectly. The whole point of the analogy was to explain the concept of supply and demand to people like you who don't seem to comprehend it.

You know what really saddens me? The way that so many gamers respond to this situation by going "Wii U players are being unreasonable"... but have no problem whinging when Bayonetta 2 is Wii U exclusive. The way that so many gamers will place companies over their fellow gamers. The way that they default to apologism, and attack the fans who are disappointed for daring to be disappointed and upset.



Pristine20 said:
Naum said:
By releasing it on the Wii-U months or maybe a year after the PS4/One versions they pretty much "force" us who own more then one console to buy the non Wii-U version.

wich will lead to much less sold Wii-U copies wich will lead to another 3rd party developer complain about lack of sales wich in turn will lead even less effort by 3rd parties in the future.


And some fools wonder why most people only buy Nintendo games on Nintendo systems.


So you mean that there are multiconsole owners who would choose the wii U version over ps4/x1 including yourself? That's pretty interesting. Besides straight up support for a console you want to do well, I can't see why anyone would choose the wii U version if they had an alternative.



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That's pretty stupid a way to handle a delay on a release date they gave, even tho some Sony/Microsoft fans might guffaw at how they're treating Nintendo fans because that is the norm now for 3rd party support to the wii-u but yeah.... this is a telling sign for how the studio will probably deal with issues which come from the other versions of the game. Keep in mind that slightly mad studios have made 3 racing games to date a 60% on meta and 2 80%s so it's not exactly like you have the same situation that the ps3 was in waiting for GT5 from Polyphony Digital. These guys simply don't have any sort of legacy and as a new racing IP there is nothing really to make people "wait to buy it"

Like I said, if anyone thinks a company like this having such weak PR is a good thing, just think twice before buying their games even if it is on your plastic box of choice, never know when you'll be upset there isn't a patch for it, then you could be on the recieving end of the -if you want it, you can wait for it, mentality



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usually I would be sad ...
but its not that mario kart is a bad game so I don't care Kappa

but -1 sale for them.



Lusche said:
usually I would be sad ...
but its not that mario kart is a bad game so I don't care Kappa

but -1 sale for them.


I would hope this sort of bad PR doesn't just affect their potential Wii-U buyers, who would buy from a company who can't meet the deadlines they gave or else accept the failure to meet those deadlines.



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The Wii U just isn't a priority when it comes to sales. Do you think Ubisoft regret delaying the Wii U version of Watch Dogs to polish the other releases? No. Will Slightly Mad care? No. Even if this title got released on Wii U on the same launch day as the others it would be the lowest selling version. Even retail PC multiplat sell more than the Wii U dispite piracy, relatively lame ports and missing digital sales. The WiiU just isn't worth the extra effort.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

Terrible PR.