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sundin13 said:
Yeah, its so strange to see a console sell 100mil...that has never happened before. Well if you ignored the fact that it has happened through each of the last three generations... Once again, I just find it funny how a thread about how irrelevant excuses are has turned into a thread full of excuses... I will repeat when I said that the PS4 was selling well, but its sales are nothing to brag about... EDIT: I would also like to point out that we don't have official NPD numbers for June yet, and given VGC's track record, they could be anywhere... |
Yeah but Wii was different! Wii sold unbelievable good at the first 3-4 years but then the sales droped so hard,nintendo had to push next gen because they knew they couldn't compete week-to-week with PS3/360 anymore.PS2 and PS1 on the other hand sold less than Wii in the 3-4 years timeframe but didn't have massive drops in sales like Wii had(PS2 for instance,sold ~50millions after PS3 was out).
Ps4 is only behind Wii and this is not a bad thing because Wii was something abnormal.PS3 sold a lot less than PS4 in the same time frame and reached 80+ millions in 7 years.It will probably reach 90 millions if sony give 10+ years support like they did with PS1/2.
Do you Imagine how much PS4 will sell in 7 years? probably 100 millions if keep this pace. and 10 years?
| ChudStudly said: Anaemic? Sweet Jesus people. Both PS4 and X1 have vastly outsold their predecessors during the same time period. It's the summer right after a new launch cycle. Sales are gonna be slow. They always are during summer (and yet, PS4 is outselling both PS3 and 360 during their respective first summers by FAR). Sales will pick up this fall/Christmas as they always do, then they'll dip again next summer. As they ALWAYS do. As far as software goes, April/June saw the industry as a whole make massive gains. You folks are ridiculous. Honestly, it's impossible for some of you to see or make sense. Anaemic. What a joke.
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You're wrong on all counts. Let's start with the claim that X1 has vastly outsold its predecessor during the same time period. Xbox 360 launched in November 2005, so the same time period brings it to June 2006. Microsoft's own annual report figures puts Xbox 360 sales to end of June at 5 million. Xbox One is at 4.8 million. Now, it's true that some of the 360 sales were only "shipped", but this gives us a ballpark figure that tells us that Xbox 360 was somewhere in the 4-5 million range, and thus Xbox One isn't "vastly outselling" at all.
Even if we take VGChartz numbers, which have Xbox 360 at 3.7 million by 1st of July, you have to notice that it was also selling about 80k per week, while Xbox One has been selling about 65k per week. So even if it started stronger, Xbox One sales have since been weaker.
You then assert that there's something about it being summer... despite the fact that I was comparing sales IN THE SAME MONTH (relative to launch) - that is, June immediately after launch. And yes, PS4 is selling a bit better than PS3 did at the equivalent time, and a bit better than the 360 did at the equivalent time... but we're talking percentages rather than multipliers (that is, more like 30% increase rather than 2x). If we consider Xbox One and PS4 combined, and compare it to PS3 and 360 combined, we have 236,039 for Xbox One + 412,761 for PS4 giving about 650k, while PS3+360 gives 560k. So where, exactly, is this "by FAR" coming from? And this is before we factor in Wii and Wii U. Wii was selling more per week than the Xbox One sold this month (and not much less than Wii U sold this month).
Or would you rather do the software comparison? Let's do it...
PS3, last week of June 2007: 400k
PS4, last week of June 2014: 480k
360, last week of June 2006: 248k
XBO, last week of June 2014: 220k
Wii, last week of June 2007: 1040k
WiiU, last week of June 2014: 266k
WiiU, last week of June 2013: 98k (included for consistency with other comparisons)
So PS4+XBO is doing barely better per week than PS3+360 was doing in equivalent times, and this is despite the higher current install base (PS3 was at 3.8 million, 360 at 3.6 million). So I'm not sure where the assertion that software is doing well comes from.
Next time, before you call me ridiculous, you could actually check the facts, rather than just how you're feeling about things. The fact that you feel as though the industry is doing well right now doesn't count as a fact in this regard.
Aielyn said:
You're wrong on all counts. Let's start with the claim that X1 has vastly outsold its predecessor during the same time period. Xbox 360 launched in November 2005, so the same time period brings it to June 2006. Microsoft's own annual report figures puts Xbox 360 sales to end of June at 5 million. Xbox One is at 4.8 million. Now, it's true that some of the 360 sales were only "shipped", but this gives us a ballpark figure that tells us that Xbox 360 was somewhere in the 4-5 million range, and thus Xbox One isn't "vastly outselling" at all. Even if we take VGChartz numbers, which have Xbox 360 at 3.7 million by 1st of July, you have to notice that it was also selling about 80k per week, while Xbox One has been selling about 65k per week. So even if it started stronger, Xbox One sales have since been weaker. You then assert that there's something about it being summer... despite the fact that I was comparing sales IN THE SAME MONTH (relative to launch) - that is, June immediately after launch. And yes, PS4 is selling a bit better than PS3 did at the equivalent time, and a bit better than the 360 did at the equivalent time... but we're talking percentages rather than multipliers (that is, more like 30% increase rather than 2x). If we consider Xbox One and PS4 combined, and compare it to PS3 and 360 combined, we have 236,039 for Xbox One + 412,761 for PS4 giving about 650k, while PS3+360 gives 560k. So where, exactly, is this "by FAR" coming from? And this is before we factor in Wii and Wii U. Wii was selling more per week than the Xbox One sold this month (and not much less than Wii U sold this month). Or would you rather do the software comparison? Let's do it... PS3, last week of June 2007: 400k 360, last week of June 2006: 248k Wii, last week of June 2007: 1040k So PS4+XBO is doing barely better per week than PS3+360 was doing in equivalent times, and this is despite the higher current install base (PS3 was at 3.8 million, 360 at 3.6 million). So I'm not sure where the assertion that software is doing well comes from. Next time, before you call me ridiculous, you could actually check the facts, rather than just how you're feeling about things. The fact that you feel as though the industry is doing well right now doesn't count as a fact in this regard. |
It's really amazing WII's numbers when you have a casual system seller like WII sport / WII Play Vs no big game :/ (Plus Mario party 8 which was launched that month)
| COX said: It's really amazing WII's numbers when you have a casual system seller like WII sport / WII Play Vs no big game :/ (Plus Mario party 8 which was launched that month) |
Mario Party 8 and "teh cazualz" really doesn't explain Wii outselling PS4 by 150%. But thanks for playing.
Aielyn said:
Mario Party 8 and "teh cazualz" really doesn't explain Wii outselling PS4 by 150%. But thanks for playing. |
Iphone outsold Wii LTD by about 500%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphone
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The PS4 is actually selling pretty well for a console with no major system sellers! And no, Knack doesn't count as a major system seller...... in America/Europe at least.. 
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Aielyn said:
Mario Party 8 and "teh cazualz" really doesn't explain Wii outselling PS4 by 150%. But thanks for playing. |
Well It explains why there's a gap in software when you have lauched a new game in june and when you have two other games selling like hotcakes. The hype about motion gaming + Wii Sport explains why there's a gap in hardware sales.
I am sure there's also a huge gap (Software/Hardware) between the first summer of the Ps1 and the WII but finally today the Ps1 is still ahead.
I'm gonna laught hard when this generation ends and all the doom mongers change their tune and make excuses. Another summer thread.
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