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what will the distribution be closest to?

70-20-10 81 12.02%
 
70-15-15 23 3.41%
 
60-25-15 134 19.88%
 
60-20-20 74 10.98%
 
50-30-20 173 25.67%
 
50-25-25 38 5.64%
 
40-30-30 122 18.10%
 
40-40-20 25 3.71%
 
Total:670
RubberWhistleHistle said:
BeElite said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:


youre right, personal experiences mean very little, but i do suspect that there are a lot of ps4 owners who are having buyers remorse, and i do believe that this sentiment is spreading slowly to friends and family. this is just a belief i have based off whats been going on in the past one or two months. ps4 sales have been declining though, and i believe that this is the reason.

You want to know buyers remorse, pay 499 for a X1 and 7 months later you can get one for 325.  

Sales will slow and speed up, its a calm time for PS4 while its competition is in desperation mode doing all it can.  You dont get the big picture do you, PS4 is doing so well on little fueling it.  Those two are uber fraked when it actually gets going.  X1 already is if you look at the watch dogs sales breakdown, and wiiu is not rly ever going to compete with PS4 for sales.  


well you say all that NOW.. but you know how console generations can go..

i t hink the reason ps4 is coasting is because of everything that happened in 2013. microsofts blunders and sony's brillian pr stunts. it all worked out very well for them and i think theyre still riding on that success. the thing cant dominate this generation because of the hype it had during one year. something has to change. 

i guess all thats left to say is.. we will see what happens.

Of course its costing, if sales were close wed be getting Uncharted this year, but they are in such a position of strength they can dealy and take time to release the best game they can.  No need to rush like early in the PS3 gen.

Its 3rd parties selling better on PS4 thus giving it a boost not the other two.  3rd prties like Final fantasy GTA MGS that boost PS more then Xbox.

Its Gran Turismo, Gof of War, Uncharted, The LAst of US, Little big planet and all the other games coming ONLY on PS4.  The vast array of franchises Sony can dip in for the future, Jak and Daxter Dark Cloud Resistance ratchet The Getaway whatever they can always bring back.  

Thast how they will domminate, and it will be easy.  



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Namiirei said:

RubberWhistleHistle said:

Xbone + WiiU closing the gap with ps4 (1)

 

although it hasn't yet been a year since the release of the ps4 and xbox one, i think we have come a lot closer to answering this question. a lot of people believed ps4 was going to attain 60%+ market share and reclaim the glory of the ps2 days. with how things have been going in the industry, it seems obvious that its going to be a much closer race than it was in the 6th generation. even a closer race than it was in the 7th generation. (2)

e3 was telling in itself. microsoft did everything right while sony.. well, sony was doing things that microsoft was heavily chastised for the e3 before. all the while, the majority went ahead and gave nintendo the win.  (3)

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sony isnt going to have that big exclusive that is going to double its sales over a long period of time. no sony exclusive has ever proven to do for a playstation console what halo or mario kart does for xbox or nintendo consoles. theyre going to have to rely on big third party games like watch dogs to get those kinds of boosts that youre talking about. (4)

 

 


So, in order :

1) For the X1 or wiiu to "closing the gap", they need to sell MORE than the ps4, and that's not the case.

1bis) Please don't add Wiiu and Xbone together, thanks.

2) A closer race than in 7th gen ? Really ? While the ps3 only got 2 or 3 millions more than the 360 ? With how things are now ? You're a poor analyst.

3) I don't know in which world you live, but the press and ppl in general didn't think microsoft "did everything right", Just look at the pools, or the conference conclusion in general. Most of the time, it's : Nintendo >>>>>>>>> sony > microsoft. Nintendo did everyhing alrightt yeah, even more with the treehouse. Sony had a lot of demos too in E3, while microsoft...well...

4) Do you know Grand turismo ? It sell more than halo, but maybe it's not important for you.


1) ps4 got less than 50% this week. thats what this thread is about, marketshare for ps4. because in order to "dominate" i would think the bare requirements is at least 50% marketshare. 

2) im including the wii obviously.. because the wii.. well, it was part of the 7th generation. nothing will be closer than the sales of ps3 and 360 in a single generation. thats unheard of.

3) when i say microsoft did everything right, im comparing what people said about their e3 2013 and comparing it to their e3 2014. do you remember how much crap MS got for tv apps, kinect, movies, and lack of games? well, their e3 2014 was the DIRECT opposite. sony slanted press can say whatever they want, nonbiased press would give props to microsoft for listening and adjusting. everybody who was down on microsoft for their e3 2013 should be giving them props while giving sony a lesser confernce since theirs was closest to emulating microsofts e3 2013. but of course, its ok when sony does it, right? (i know im going to get a ton of crap for all that)

4) gran turismo's sales have been declining more and more. but yes, that is one beast they do have locked away in a cage.



RubberWhistleHistle said:


1) ps4 got less than 50% this week. thats what this thread is about, marketshare for ps4. because in order to "dominate" i would think the bare requirements is at least 50% marketshare. 

 


dude, you are basing to much on guesstamate that will likly be "adjusted" in a week or two.

Its at 57ish % for the year, a unsubstantiated week or two mean not much at all.  



BeElite said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:


1) ps4 got less than 50% this week. thats what this thread is about, marketshare for ps4. because in order to "dominate" i would think the bare requirements is at least 50% marketshare. 

 


dude, you are basing to much on guesstamate that will likly be "adjusted" in a week or two.

Its at 57ish % for the year, a unsubstantiated week or two mean not much at all.  

theres gonna have to be a lot of adjusting for it to be above 50%. 

wii u and xbone were doing fucking horrible earlier this year while ps4 is booming and its at 57%. that should show you that its declining. ps4 isnt going to have a 50%+market share year.



how are they closing the gap when the ps4 consistently sells more, thus expanding the gap..



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I agree with you, but I think it will be 50-30-20.



    

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RubberWhistleHistle said:


1) ps4 got less than 50% this week. thats what this thread is about, marketshare for ps4. because in order to "dominate" i would think the bare requirements is at least 50% marketshare. 

2) im including the wii obviously.. because the wii.. well, it was part of the 7th generation. nothing will be closer than the sales of ps3 and 360 in a single generation. thats unheard of.

3) when i say microsoft did everything right, im comparing what people said about their e3 2013 and comparing it to their e3 2014. do you remember how much crap MS got for tv apps, kinect, movies, and lack of games? well, their e3 2014 was the DIRECT opposite. sony slanted press can say whatever they want, nonbiased press would give props to microsoft for listening and adjusting. everybody who was down on microsoft for their e3 2013 should be giving them props while giving sony a lesser confernce since theirs was closest to emulating microsofts e3 2013. but of course, its ok when sony does it, right? (i know im going to get a ton of crap for all that)

4) gran turismo's sales have been declining more and more. but yes, that is one beast they do have locked away in a cage.

1) We've all seen that this site is not even close to accurate when tracking the 8th gen.  They list the XBone as having more sales in the US this week than the PS4.  When NPD releases, we will see that is just not the case.  Guaranteed that the PS4 was higher than 50% market share this week.

2) Last gen was 38-31-31 (Wii-PS3-360), no way this gen is that close.

3) E3 performance is highly subjective.  There was no consensus "winner" this year.  E3 this year will have zero impact on sales.



I do think the market share in the end will be close, but we aren't even two years in! Anything can still happen, just look at last generation. If i would make a wild guess, then PS4 45%, X1 35% and WiiU 20%.



The gap isn't closing. They can't close the gap unless they manage to sell more. The rate can be slowed at which the gap increases though.



Closing the gap or furthering the gap is irrelevant to me. Just give me fun games on all 3 systems and whoever sells more or who doesnt sell -insert number here- is irrelevant to me lol



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