lol. uhm.. do you mind maybe breaking down that 170 on a year by year basis? im interested to see what that looks like

Now that PS4 has been adjusted up this discussion should be dead. Right? Right?

2013: 4,400,000 (4.4m)

2014: 14,100,000 (18.5m)

2015: 18,000,000 (36.5m)

2016: 22,000,000 (58.5m)

2017: 25,000,000 (73.5m) (2017 of PS4 > 2008 Wii)

2018: 23,000,000 (96.5m)

2019: 20,000,000 (116.5m)

2020: 16,000,000 (132.5m) (November 2020 coming PS5)

2021-2025: 37,500,000 (170m)

In comparation, PS1 have sold other 30,000,000 when PS2 is coming, and PS2 have sold other 40,000,000 when PS3 is coming.

N.A: 70,000,000

Europe: 65,000,000

Japan: 7,000,000

Happy?

Now please, post you prediction.

so you think that there is going to be 4 years in a row where ps4 sells 20m or more? starting in 2016? thats a pretty bold prediction.and then 37 million more after ps5 comes out.. that really is a lot. and there are going to be so many factors occurring in the next 10 years that we cant really say for certain how likely it is, but as it stands, i really dont think there is a chance. thats a toooon of fucking consoles. the ps5 also has to be dropping before 2020. there is no way this generation is going to be as long as the seventh. i think all consoles will be out 2019 at the latest. the big three will have their release years being either 2018/2019. 

anyways, ps4 will probably be around 70-80 million. x1 and wii u somehwere around 40. very rough estimates, but thats because there is way too much that can happen. microsoft can drop xbox all together for all we know and ps4 will end up with 70% marketshare or something. who knows.

Were you not interested in continuing our discussion? I asked you why the PS4s baseline would decrease while everything else suggests otherwise. More next-gen only third party, more third party over all, more exclusives, lower price (eventually). How do you make it so that the PS4s baseline sinks?

Yeah.

In my comment i said that PS2 have sold 40,000,000 after PS3 resaled, and PS1 after PS2 30,000,000.

My prediction is bold, i know, but even you prediction...

70,000,000 or maximum 80,000,000 of PS4?

Less than PS3 that will sell minimum 90,000,000?

Ok the during of gen, but please, like me, can you post you prediction year on year?

i dont think their baseline will sink, it will grow if anything, because more people are going to be entering into the new generation. but at the same time, the proportion of people buying a ps4 is going to be lower moving forward than it has been. i mean look at whats been going on, ps4 has had great press and said all the right things while microsoft has pissed everybody off and nintendo's marketing has been in shambles and they mismanaged the wii u tremendously for a year. looking at it this way, there is no way that, with nintendo and microsoft doing much better, that the proportion of people buying a ps4 is going to be better than it was.

i really couldnt say yoy because you never know when the price drops and the revised models will come, but ill give it a shot

2014-11m

2015-13-15m

2016-15-18m (some kind of remodel will most likely take place)

2017-14-16m

2018-14m

2019-20whaterver- 5-10m (depends when the ps5 launches)

I will take the rest of the discussion in this thread.

PS4 with TLOU:R was higher than Wii U with MK8 launch. Just imagine how total the domination will be with stuff like UC, GoW, GT7, NDs other IP. Then there is third party, which will differ, but based on trends so far will benefit the PS4 more than the XBO (of course varying on a title to title basis) The PS4 is the lead console, that's an advantage of its own. The Wii U will peak next year or the year after that, and considering Nintendos terrible hardware legs, sales will diminish quickly after that.

The PS3 even has a 34 % market share, and increasing. That was with a fluke like the Wii, and the Xbox 360 that actually stole a lot of marketshare. Now in the market were 360 got that from (US) the PS4 is outselling it ( by I good margin) every week. Europe is sony land, and US, although not as much so, will also be this gen.