Zanten said:
...and the only way you could downplay Sony's performance was to take both of its competitors and combine them? You do realize that phrasing is likely the reason you're encountering most of the backlash, because you basically come across as desperate to find some way, ANY way, to claim that Sony's lead really isn't thaaaaat greeeeat. The way you finally picked isn't even a particularly good one. 'Yeah, if me and my friend BOTH attack that one guy, maybe while he's got his back turned, we can TOTALLY beat him, so he's not so tough! >.> ' He sounds pretty tough to me if you need to bring along a friend to stand a chance. o.o
Anyway, breaking them down individually, Sony's line-up has been pretty lackluster so far, they've been pretty sluggish to improve the platform itself, and many studios have yet to really throw their hat into the ring, yet they'd still been pretty handily outselling Microsoft month after month, in what was supposed to be Microsoft's home market no less. (Interested in seeing June's NPD; Microsoft may have had a lead the last three weeks, but they were probably slaughtered by Sony in the first week, so it will be interesting to see how it all balances out.) They've got an exclusive marketing deal going on with Activision for Destiny- which has the potential to greatly benefit Sony in particular giving the planned bundle- and Japan, Sony's usual stronghold, has been highly lackluster in terms of both developers and consumers using the new platform. In other words, even though Sony is doing very, VERY well in terms of sales, the shocking part is that if Japan had received the PS4 like it did past generations, and if they'd hit more aggressively in terms of their lineup, it would be doing even BETTER, perhaps significantly so. Hell, I'm pretty surprised it's doing so well so early! Both the Japan situation AND the relative lack of content have the potential to be rectified, meaning that even when Sony's sales really begin to slouch- definition being 'Not The Lead Selling 8th Gen Console Week After Week'- they still have opportunities to improve and expand on these key weak points. Microsoft on the other hand has actually, in my opinion, done a good job getting titles out there in the past eight months, they've reversed nearly EVERY negative sticking point on the console, and have made their pricing significantly more competitive, both with the removal of the Kinect, and with a greater emphasis on bundles, deals, and purchase incentives. They've been running, they've been running like Hell, and the best that it's seemed to do is slow the rate at which Sony pulls ahead of them. Sure, there are a large number of markets they haven't released in yet, but 1) chances of managing much in those markets are slim anyway, and 2) with no region locking, anyone IN those markets has the option of importing, meaning that consumer demand in Europe won't be as pent-up as some people think. Even assuming the VGChartz numbers are accurate and Microsoft has regained a sliver of a North America lead, (about time by the way, seriously, took them aaaages,) they still aren't even able to keep the global gap from increasing yet. To frame it with your race analogy, Sony's stumbled a few times, and still seems to be kinda half-assing it, but is outpacing the others like Usain Bolt. Microsoft flat out tripped and face-planted at the starting line, but managed to get to its feet and has been running in a flat-out sprint ever since, only to watch Usony Bolt get further and further away. Microsoft might be able to tap into some reserves and run EVEN faster, but there's also the possibility that Sony will eventually actually start trying to actively compete, and will just end up pulling ahead even faster as a result. As for Wii U, fiiine, if you want to include them. xP I think it has the potential to do very well, in no small part because, as I mentioned before, it is a much more distinct platform than the Xbox One/PS4 duo. Multi-console owners may be more likely to make their first two consoles an Xbox One (or PS4) and Wii U than they are an Xbox One and PS4, because you maximize the amount of content available. Folks who don't see the point in buying the Xbox One AND PS4 to try just a handful of exclusives are more likely to invest in a Nintendo machine as a second console. I know I intend to. So I have no doubt Wii U will be just fine, once they start getting some awesome Zelda and Smashing titles out there. They MIGHT even have a shot at a global lead, if they can secure the Japan market and keep Sony from getting a bigger foothold, in much the same way the PS3 caught up to the Xbox 360 because of that advantage; again, it's a fairly big 'if.' That being said, Nintendo will continue to be Nintendo, so short of indie titles, expect the larger third-party publishers to continue largely ignoring the Wii U in favor of the combined PS4 and Xbox One market. In closing, I don't see the PS4 having PS2 or even Wii NUMBERS, but that's mostly because the market is different; most of the casual gamers who made the Wii so popular have moved on to mobile and tablets, and unlike the PS2 era, where it emerged during the rise of DVD popularity, PS4 has no exceptional media features that the competition doesn't. There are cheaper, smaller devices that provide a variety of multimedia functions now, which I expect will draw the bulk of the casual crowd, (for the same reason, don't have very high expectations on Microsoft's 'own the living room' plan succeeding.) I doubt any of the three consoles will achieve those kinds of numbers, (though I believe the software attach rates for all three might increase to compensate, meaning the game market itself will continue to grow, even if the hardware numbers are lower.) I do however believe that the PS4 will continue to maintain a solid, consistent lead over the immediate competitor, in terms of percentages it will likely be even wider than the lead the Wii had over the 360 and PS3. The Wii U, however, is a bit of a wild card at the moment, so I can't speak towards the PS4's overall market share. |
my god, seriously? i only read the first paragraph of what you wrote, so thats all i will be responding to for now as i dont have time to read the rest because i am working on a new hot pop video and i need to finish what im working on soon, but i will read the rest of it soon.
but anyway, really? im going to make this REALLY simple for you. i am not downplaying the ps4
-I AM NOT DOWNPLAYING THE PS4-
>>>>>>>>I AM NOT DOWNPLAYING THE PS4<<<<<<<<<<
sony did a great job with the ps4. so much so that the multiplats for that console function as exclusives in terms of what it does for the system (at least up to now) and considering everything that sony is doing with destiny, that game might as well be exclusive. its going to be their biggest gun while doing jack shit for microsoft. these kinds of things, sony did very well, so again, this thread isnt meant to downplay the ps4.
pay attention here:
pay attention:
i am knocking on the guys who claimed SECOND COMING OF THE PS2. i thought i made this clear multiple times throughout this thread? this is about bringing people back to reality. another user who posted a little bit before you did said this too, and it sums up perfectly what im saying in this thread, people need to take off their fantasy goggles and have a reality check. thats all im saying. if xbone + wii u outsell ps4 combined.. then that is not second coming of the ps2, im sorry. the sony guys were out of control last year and i wanted to make a thread that brings people down to earth. ps4 is only going to win by a decent amount.. but thats it. thats as good as its going to get. its no ps2, its no ps1. its ps4. better than the ps3, but not reclaiming the glory days.
i hope we are clear
IM NOT DOWNPLAYING THE PS4