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Chris Hu on 11 July 2014
EspadaGrim said:
So bosh Re-signs and it looks like Wade is coming back the Heat. The Rockets should spend that cap space to Improve their bench.


They should but they will probably just use it to re sign Parsons which might be good news for the Mavs in the long run since they probably can get a better free agent down the road.



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PotentHerbs on 11 July 2014
prayformojo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
The mindless hate Lebron gets is funny. And haha @ comparing him to situations like Tim Duncan, who was drafted onto an elite team, or Jordan, who by the time he was on the Bulls as long as Lebron was on the Cavs, had Phil and Scottie. Or Kobe, who not only bitched and whined to the media wanting a trade when his front office was slacking, but he actually manipulated his draft to go to a better team. And yeah Kobe is still a Laker. Probably because... you know, theyre the only team that would pay him 20+ million a year still. Kobe would be dumb to turn that down.


This is why people hate when it comes to Lecramp. 

 

Michael Jordan's stats in the 1993 finals through five games (29 years old)
31 pts, 5 ast, 7 trb
42 pts, 9 ast, 12 trb
44 pts, 6 ast, 9 trb
55 pts, 4 ast, 8 trb
41 pts, 7 ast, 7 trb

Won finals MVP and third straight NBA title 4-2.

Lebron James stats in the 2014 finals through five games (29 years old)
25 pts, 3 ast, 6 trb
35 pts, 3 ast, 10 trb
22 pts, 7 ast, 5 trb
28 pts, 2 ast, 8 trb
31 pts, 5 ast, 10 trb

Lost in the NBA finals 1-4.

 

He should NOT be getting the hype he gets based on his play. He's a good player, but that's it.


LMFAO! You do realize that Suns team didn't even rank top 15 on the defensive end that year while the 2014 Spurs were 6th? Kawhi + Green are better perimeter defenders than anyone on that Phoenix roster without handchecking implemented. MJ also had Pippen who is one of the top five perimeter defenders of All - Time. He played much better then Wade did in the 2014 Finals while Horace Grant averaged a double - double in the 93 Finals while Bosh barely averaged 6 RPG. Also what about LeBron's 4 MVP's + 2FMVP's? Or the fact that he has a season that ranks in top three PER's all - time alongside MJ & KaJ? Or maybe even the fact that LeBron has MORE triple doubles then Jordan does in the Finals with less games. Point being you compare a player's overall resume if you're want to determine their worth as a player. 



burninmylight on 11 July 2014
PotentHerbs said:
prayformojo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
The mindless hate Lebron gets is funny. And haha @ comparing him to situations like Tim Duncan, who was drafted onto an elite team, or Jordan, who by the time he was on the Bulls as long as Lebron was on the Cavs, had Phil and Scottie. Or Kobe, who not only bitched and whined to the media wanting a trade when his front office was slacking, but he actually manipulated his draft to go to a better team. And yeah Kobe is still a Laker. Probably because... you know, theyre the only team that would pay him 20+ million a year still. Kobe would be dumb to turn that down.


This is why people hate when it comes to Lecramp. 

 

Michael Jordan's stats in the 1993 finals through five games (29 years old)
31 pts, 5 ast, 7 trb
42 pts, 9 ast, 12 trb
44 pts, 6 ast, 9 trb
55 pts, 4 ast, 8 trb
41 pts, 7 ast, 7 trb

Won finals MVP and third straight NBA title 4-2.

Lebron James stats in the 2014 finals through five games (29 years old)
25 pts, 3 ast, 6 trb
35 pts, 3 ast, 10 trb
22 pts, 7 ast, 5 trb
28 pts, 2 ast, 8 trb
31 pts, 5 ast, 10 trb

Lost in the NBA finals 1-4.

 

He should NOT be getting the hype he gets based on his play. He's a good player, but that's it.


LMFAO! You do realize that Suns team didn't even rank top 15 on the defensive end that year while the 2014 Spurs were 6th? Kawhi + Green are better perimeter defenders than anyone on that Phoenix roster without handchecking implemented. MJ also had Pippen who is one of the top five perimeter defenders of All - Time. He played much better then Wade did in the 2014 Finals while Horace Grant averaged a double - double in the 93 Finals while Bosh barely averaged 6 RPG. Also what about LeBron's 4 MVP's + 2FMVP's? Or the fact that he has a season that ranks in top three PER's all - time alongside MJ & KaJ? Or maybe even the fact that LeBron has MORE triple doubles then Jordan does in the Finals with less games. Point being you compare a player's overall resume if you're want to determine their worth as a player. 

Well said!



oldschoolfool on 11 July 2014

I don't hate lebron james,but he's so over-rated it's not even funny. Espn talks like he's the second coming,but he's far from that. He should'nt even be in the discussion of the greatest of all time. Hell,Tim Ducan and that team deserves way more praise then what lebron is getting.



Chris Hu on 11 July 2014
oldschoolfool said:
I don't hate lebron james,but he's so over-rated it's not even funny. Espn talks like he's the second coming,but he's far from that. He should'nt even be in the discussion of the greatest of all time. Hell,Tim Ducan and that team deserves way more praise then what lebron is getting.

Skip Bayless gives the Spurs a ton of credit.  Although he somewhat underestimated them since he had them winning in 6.  He also has them repeating.  As far as greatest of all time talk it shouldn't exist in basketball since its a team sport you can only go by postition.  One guy can't beat five guys no matter how good he is unless its one guy going up against a bunch of kindergardners.



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oldschoolfool on 11 July 2014
Chris Hu said:
oldschoolfool said:
I don't hate lebron james,but he's so over-rated it's not even funny. Espn talks like he's the second coming,but he's far from that. He should'nt even be in the discussion of the greatest of all time. Hell,Tim Ducan and that team deserves way more praise then what lebron is getting.

Skip Bayless gives the Spurs a ton of credit.  Although he somewhat underestimated them since he had them winning in 6.  He also has them repeating.  As far as greatest of all time talk it shouldn't exist in basketball since its a team sport you can only go by postition.  One guy can't beat five guys no matter how good he is unless its one guy going up against a bunch of kindergardners.

skip bayless is the only one. I'm surprised someone on here knows about that show. I watch first take all the time. 



Chris Hu on 11 July 2014
oldschoolfool said:
Chris Hu said:
oldschoolfool said:
I don't hate lebron james,but he's so over-rated it's not even funny. Espn talks like he's the second coming,but he's far from that. He should'nt even be in the discussion of the greatest of all time. Hell,Tim Ducan and that team deserves way more praise then what lebron is getting.

Skip Bayless gives the Spurs a ton of credit.  Although he somewhat underestimated them since he had them winning in 6.  He also has them repeating.  As far as greatest of all time talk it shouldn't exist in basketball since its a team sport you can only go by postition.  One guy can't beat five guys no matter how good he is unless its one guy going up against a bunch of kindergardners.

skip bayless is the only one. I'm surprised someone on here knows about that show. I watch first take all the time. 


Don't have cable but I like watching their clips on YouTube.  Can't wait to see what they think about the LeBron move.  I'm with Skip as far as the Spurs repeating goes of course that is only if they stay relatively injury free.  



prayformojo on 11 July 2014
LudicrousSpeed said:
prayformojo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
The mindless hate Lebron gets is funny. And haha @ comparing him to situations like Tim Duncan, who was drafted onto an elite team, or Jordan, who by the time he was on the Bulls as long as Lebron was on the Cavs, had Phil and Scottie. Or Kobe, who not only bitched and whined to the media wanting a trade when his front office was slacking, but he actually manipulated his draft to go to a better team. And yeah Kobe is still a Laker. Probably because... you know, theyre the only team that would pay him 20+ million a year still. Kobe would be dumb to turn that down.


This is why people hate when it comes to Lecramp. 

 

Michael Jordan's stats in the 1993 finals through five games (29 years old)
31 pts, 5 ast, 7 trb
42 pts, 9 ast, 12 trb
44 pts, 6 ast, 9 trb
55 pts, 4 ast, 8 trb
41 pts, 7 ast, 7 trb

Won finals MVP and third straight NBA title 4-2.

Lebron James stats in the 2014 finals through five games (29 years old)
25 pts, 3 ast, 6 trb
35 pts, 3 ast, 10 trb
22 pts, 7 ast, 5 trb
28 pts, 2 ast, 8 trb
31 pts, 5 ast, 10 trb

Lost in the NBA finals 1-4.

 

He should NOT be getting the hype he gets based on his play. He's a good player, but that's it.

Oh ok, so because cherry picked stats from one playoff series dont match cherry picked stats from the GOAT on a different team with a different opponent in a different system in a different era, he can't be a great player. Thanks.

Stats don't lie. Hype does.



Chris Hu on 11 July 2014
prayformojo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
prayformojo said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
The mindless hate Lebron gets is funny. And haha @ comparing him to situations like Tim Duncan, who was drafted onto an elite team, or Jordan, who by the time he was on the Bulls as long as Lebron was on the Cavs, had Phil and Scottie. Or Kobe, who not only bitched and whined to the media wanting a trade when his front office was slacking, but he actually manipulated his draft to go to a better team. And yeah Kobe is still a Laker. Probably because... you know, theyre the only team that would pay him 20+ million a year still. Kobe would be dumb to turn that down.


This is why people hate when it comes to Lecramp. 

 

Michael Jordan's stats in the 1993 finals through five games (29 years old)
31 pts, 5 ast, 7 trb
42 pts, 9 ast, 12 trb
44 pts, 6 ast, 9 trb
55 pts, 4 ast, 8 trb
41 pts, 7 ast, 7 trb

Won finals MVP and third straight NBA title 4-2.

Lebron James stats in the 2014 finals through five games (29 years old)
25 pts, 3 ast, 6 trb
35 pts, 3 ast, 10 trb
22 pts, 7 ast, 5 trb
28 pts, 2 ast, 8 trb
31 pts, 5 ast, 10 trb

Lost in the NBA finals 1-4.

 

He should NOT be getting the hype he gets based on his play. He's a good player, but that's it.

Oh ok, so because cherry picked stats from one playoff series dont match cherry picked stats from the GOAT on a different team with a different opponent in a different system in a different era, he can't be a great player. Thanks.

Stats don't lie. Hype does.

Well its not really fair to compare Jordan versus LeBron since they play two completly different positions shooting guard versus small forward.  That being said both of them are/where miles better then the second best guy playing that same position during the time they played/are playing.  Also as much as I hate Kobe the last two years Jordan was playing with the Wizards I would have picked Kobe over Jordan.  So in Jordan's case to me he was the best player in his position 13 out of the 15 years he was in the league.



MoHasanie on 11 July 2014

Not a fan of LeBron, but good luck to him.



    

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