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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 11 July 2014

Visual Representation of what Summer typically is for gaming:



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kitler53 on 11 July 2014
VanceIX said:
kitler53 said:
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well if you think entwinded, and TLoU, and mlb, and hokokum, and infamous first light, and pixel junk shooter is just enough first party content to be putting out this summer than maybe you'll find something you like in the swapper, or metro redux, or road not taken, or minecraft, or plants vs zombies GW, or madden, or diablo, or oddworld, or the witness, or ufc, or rogue legacy, or mousecraft, or guacamelee, or valient hearts.   and if it's still a no,.. then honestly just go cry about it quietly.   don't buy a console in the first 12 months if you expect stellar support.  by first year's standards sony has done an amazing job getting content onto their system.  like massively amazing.

Infamous came out in spring, not summer. MLB is oriented towards the niche baseball fandom, and was also a spring game. Entwined is a relatively small game, little more than a blip.

And you know what? A lot of the games you keep mentioning were already available on different consoles. I didn't buy a PS4 for ports. I'm trying to give some constructive criticism, let's not pretend that Sony has blown this gen out of the park in terms of software, because they haven't. 

I'm still satisfied with my PS4 though, since I love Destiny and am looking forward to playing the beta. Commenting on the lack of summer support doesn't mean I hate the console.

infamous first ligtht.

but honestly i'm done with you after reading this.

"And gens don't have to start off slow. The Wii U had Pikmin 3 in its first summer,.."

complaining about the ps4's first year line up and then referencing the wiiU as an example of how gens don't have to start off slow.  yeah great, pikmin in august and nothing in january through august.   yeah, i've got more cents in my couch...



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 11 July 2014
VanceIX said:

Because I'm not comparing the consolea here. Just because Microsoft has nothimg ready doesn't mean Sony shouldn't as well. I'm more concerned for the system I own.

If any console needed a game for summer, the last one to be considered would be the PS4. Typically, games are released when demand needs to be high, like not summer.



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Xenostar on 11 July 2014
sales2099 said:
Just seems very vanilla of a port and only exists to pay the summer bills. It is just using the name to cash-in while still recent in our minds. More work could have went into it and yes, I like remasters myself, if the new content justifies a purchase.


Well its 60fps, which according to alot on here means last years 30fps game is unplayable in comparison.

/sarcasm

 

OT:

PS4 has clearly adopted alot of 360 gamers so there is a market for a port already, and remember this isnt just any game its the second highest rated game of last year, same reason were seeing a port of GTA5 this year, that being the highest rated game of last year. 



Raziel123 on 11 July 2014

None of the 3 have a big first party game this summer. Other than Sony's TLOU.



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method114 on 11 July 2014
VanceIX said:
Areym said:

They already stated that 50% of PS4 owners did not play TLoU, which is a really good portion. We can probably assume 30% of that 50% don't give a damn.

Think of it this way, they are gonna use that revenue to work on U4 and whatever project they got in store so the more successful it is, the more resources they will have, etc.

Also, there are a ton of great small/indie games to pass the time. Towerfall, Outlast, transistor, etc.

Lastly, in restrospect, you should have expected a drought coming anyways. Gens usually start out very slow, Wii U being the prime example.

There are tons of indie games, which is nice. Just no major AA or AAA titles from Sony is disappointing (other than MLB perhaps).

And gens don't have to start off slow. The Wii U had Pikmin 3 in its first summer, along with WWHD soon after (which was a remake, but of a game far older than TLOU, and much more redesigned).


So sony had one less game than Nintendo...one of which was a remake. 



Nirvana_Nut85 on 11 July 2014

If it wasn't for the fact that there are some strong 3rd party offerings on PS4 this fall, I would have sold my PS4 and put the funds towards upgrading my vid card on the PC ( I get close to Xbone quality at this point)



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Hyruken on 11 July 2014

It's just a con really. I loved TLOU and completed it on all modes and did all the side stuff etc. Great game!

However to get the remaster is about £40 here. You could by the PS3 version for around £10. Is there really anything that different with the game to warrant paying basically 70% extra? The graphics are improved but only slightly. It isn't a huge jump in quality at all. I think doing remasters of games that are only a year or so old is stupid. Games that are pretty old i.e FFX are a great idea as without the backwards compatibility you get to relive some of the best games made from days gone by in HD.

If the game was say £15 then I would go for it if I had not played it. But to price it at full price as if it is a new game is a joke.



Weedlab on 11 July 2014

Why not? Plenty of people didn't own a PS3 and own or will own a PS4, so it makes perfect sense. Even some PS3 owners didn't get to play it since some sold their systems to make way for the PS4. I think of it more of as a GOTY edition that takes advantage of what the PS4 could do. To each his own, but in the grand scheme of things I think it is a great idea.

A remaster of other first party games that released prior to the next gen buzz I might not agree with.



 

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VanceIX on 11 July 2014
mornelithe said:
VanceIX said:

I'm talking about a season, not the entire year. I found fall, winter, and spring to be perfectly acceptable in content, just not this summer.

And yeah, I'm gonna speak out if I'm not seeing the type of games I play on my console. Why not? Isn't that how companies gauge the market?

And just because a console is dominating doesn't mean that it has the best software. Even as a PS4 owner, I can say that up to this point Nintendo has easily outpaced Sony in terms of first-party games, even if you only take into account the first year of both consoles. If you believe that the PS4 is perfect in terms of library, power to you. You have no right to judge what kind of games I like. Not the entire fanbase is appeased by a year-old remaster.

That's great, still don't care.  Don't buy it in the first 12 months if you can't handle the dry spells.  You can say whatever you like...and yet, I still don't care. :)  More people appear to be appeased than not, so...that's all I really care about.

Alright, it's fine that you don't care, but in that case mind your own business instead of telling me when I should buy my consoles. I've never had this bad of a summer with a new console, and I've bought plenty of consoles release-day.

Ucell said:
VanceIX said:

I'm talking about a season, not the entire year. I found fall, winter, and spring to be perfectly acceptable in content, just not this summer.

And yeah, I'm gonna speak out if I'm not seeing the type of games I play on my console. Why not? Isn't that how companies gauge the market?

And just because a console is dominating doesn't mean that it has the best software. Even as a PS4 owner, I can say that up to this point Nintendo has easily outpaced Sony in terms of first-party games, even if you only take into account the first year of both consoles. If you believe that the PS4 is perfect in terms of library, power to you. You have no right to judge what kind of games I like. Not the entire fanbase is appeased by a year-old remaster.

I think you should learn to wait for games to come. AAA games aren't made in a month or even a year or two, so you can't just expect them to come out regularly.

Besides, unlike Nintendo consoles, PlayStation consoles are about both first-party and third-party games, not just first-party games, and you should look at it that way. That is the kind of ecosystem of a PS console.

But if ALL what you want is Sony first-party games, you will have to wait only till October, when they will slowly start streamrolling in. Just look at it:

1) DriveClub (October)

2) LBP 3 (November)

3) The Order: 1886 (February)

Of course that's only the ones announced. We have yet to see all that they have in store for us.

Except Sony had years before the PS4 was released to do planning and development. Even in previous gens the summer spell wasn't quite so bad that the only major first-party game was a remaster.

And, once again, I know there are more games on the way. I'm referring to the 4 months of June-September that Sony seemed to have ignored for the most part.



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