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Does VGC report console sales figures too often?

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kirby007 on 03 July 2014

No, what VGC lacks is theconnecting the feedback we give it, people anticipate the bundle on the forum, vgc misses it, vgc posts sales of a game that doesn't exist we point it out jackshit happens



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starcraft on 03 July 2014
kirby007 said:
No, what VGC lacks is theconnecting the feedback we give it, people anticipate the bundle on the forum, vgc misses it, vgc posts sales of a game that doesn't exist we point it out jackshit happens

Thats just it though. VGC actively tracks hundreds of games and residually tracks thousands. It will never be exactly right.

When it comes to hardware, I guess I am suggesting a slight shift in the model to rebalance the regularity/accuracy equation - hopefully for the better.



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Xenostar on 03 July 2014
starcraft said:
kirby007 said:
No, what VGC lacks is theconnecting the feedback we give it, people anticipate the bundle on the forum, vgc misses it, vgc posts sales of a game that doesn't exist we point it out jackshit happens

Thats just it though. VGC actively tracks hundreds of games and residually tracks thousands. It will never be exactly right.

When it comes to hardware, I guess I am suggesting a slight shift in the model to rebalance the regularity/accuracy equation - hopefully for the better.


changing to bi weekly or monthly wont make any difference without them improving there data collection sources first. 



starcraft on 03 July 2014
Xenostar said:
starcraft said:
kirby007 said:
No, what VGC lacks is theconnecting the feedback we give it, people anticipate the bundle on the forum, vgc misses it, vgc posts sales of a game that doesn't exist we point it out jackshit happens

Thats just it though. VGC actively tracks hundreds of games and residually tracks thousands. It will never be exactly right.

When it comes to hardware, I guess I am suggesting a slight shift in the model to rebalance the regularity/accuracy equation - hopefully for the better.

changing to bi weekly or monthly wont make any difference without them improving there data collection sources first. 

No, but as I have said the majority of the problem is perception, not an actual issue with the data. Bi-weekly would result in less variation in the reported numbers...and hopefully less controversy as a result.



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Xenostar on 03 July 2014
starcraft said:
Xenostar said:
starcraft said:
kirby007 said:
No, what VGC lacks is theconnecting the feedback we give it, people anticipate the bundle on the forum, vgc misses it, vgc posts sales of a game that doesn't exist we point it out jackshit happens

Thats just it though. VGC actively tracks hundreds of games and residually tracks thousands. It will never be exactly right.

When it comes to hardware, I guess I am suggesting a slight shift in the model to rebalance the regularity/accuracy equation - hopefully for the better.

changing to bi weekly or monthly wont make any difference without them improving there data collection sources first. 

No, but as I have said the majority of the problem is perception, not an actual issue with the data. Bi-weekly would result in less variation in the reported numbers...and hopefully less controversy as a result.


well id rather see them investing in getting better data, than masking the quality of there data behind less regular updates. 



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Nadwki on 03 July 2014
Hedra42 said:

You said that the main point of the site was for weekly sales that may or may not be right, and users discuss it. I inferred from that, that you meant that the main reason VGChartz provides weekly numbers is so that users can discuss them on the forums. I may have misunderstood.

That is a large part of it, and it creates a lively community that is interested in it, but VGChartz offers a paid service which includes much more than is seen and discussed here (as implied by the second exerpt I posted). They don't compete with NPD and the like, and they offer a service which is completely different.

"VGChartz offers a professional data service called VGChartz Pro. If you require any custom analysis, preview data, forecasts or any other bespoke service outside of the scope of what is offered publically on VGChartz, or want to know more about the website then please contact us" http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php

There was a page with the logos of some high profile users somewhere on this site but I can't seem to find it...

Just scroll down for the logos VGChartz Pro

Yeah, there is a separate 'Pro' service, this has been available for about the past 4 years? To be clear this part of VGC provides estimated numbers for hardware and software and it then gets discussed in the forums. Take those away and the non 'Pro' part of VGChartz has no reason to exist. And imo moving them to bi-weekly would dilute the weekly vibrancy around here and still they would only be estimates, the discussion about accuracy would not stop. 



Intrinsic on 03 July 2014

Yup... two weeks sounds perfect to me if it would really mean slightly more accurate numbers



ThatDanishGamer on 03 July 2014

2000 consoles up or 2000 down doesn't matter, but it's nice to know how much and how fast the Wii U sales are falling after an exclusive release like Mario Kart.



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MoHasanie on 03 July 2014

No. And I don't see how releasing data every 2 weeks would make much of a difference.
Having sales numbers every week is great. Members of the site like sales info and I'm sure there are lots of people who are not members that find VGCs sales data useful. So basically, its great for bringing more people to the site.



    

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Hedra42 on 03 July 2014
Nadwki said:
Hedra42 said:

You said that the main point of the site was for weekly sales that may or may not be right, and users discuss it. I inferred from that, that you meant that the main reason VGChartz provides weekly numbers is so that users can discuss them on the forums. I may have misunderstood.

That is a large part of it, and it creates a lively community that is interested in it, but VGChartz offers a paid service which includes much more than is seen and discussed here (as implied by the second exerpt I posted). They don't compete with NPD and the like, and they offer a service which is completely different.

"VGChartz offers a professional data service called VGChartz Pro. If you require any custom analysis, preview data, forecasts or any other bespoke service outside of the scope of what is offered publically on VGChartz, or want to know more about the website then please contact us" http://www.vgchartz.com/methodology.php

There was a page with the logos of some high profile users somewhere on this site but I can't seem to find it...

Just scroll down for the logos VGChartz Pro

Yeah, there is a separate 'Pro' service, this has been available for about the past 4 years? To be clear this part of VGC provides estimated numbers for hardware and software and it then gets discussed in the forums. Take those away and the non 'Pro' part of VGChartz has no reason to exist. And imo moving them to bi-weekly would dilute the weekly vibrancy around here and still they would only be estimates, the discussion about accuracy would not stop. 

Thanks - couldn't see for looking!

But Pro or not Pro, the figures still come from the same raw data, from which - as the second excerpt in my first post suggests, VGChartz could even provide a rough estimate of software sales within a couple of hours after business end if a paying customer required it.

The main point of VGChartz is to provide a tracking service that is completely different from any other, both as a free service to the public, and as a paid, professional service.

I agree with your last sentence in part. In my opinion, it's because VGChartz's service is different, that the purpose of its figures is so widely misunderstood. To me, moving to bi-weekly in any of their reports would seem to be against what they're trying to achieve.